Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 18, 2012, 12:28:42 AM

No bro!, the very essence of the Bible is to know JESUS cause he is our ONLY hope. 

So, I was right. In the past, I was like you are now. It was until I've read the Bible; both Old and New Testament. It's rather hard to understand New Testament without reading The Old Testament; only then you can see how illogical the whole book is.

Quote from: Qwert on October 18, 2012, 12:56:14 AM
So, I was right. In the past, I was like you are now. It was until I've read the Bible; both Old and New Testament. It's rather hard to understand New Testament without reading The Old Testament; only then you can see how illogical the whole book is.

The bible is a "great" collection of stories, nothing more. Christians place so much emphasis on the "resurrection" of christ, and claim that christ is the only one to have been resurrected after death. They won't acknowledge  pre christian history, and see that Prometheus, and Osiris, and Vishnu, et al, also were "resurrected".

Christians can not claim unique ownership of the resurrection story, because such stories of resurrection pre date christianity by thousands of years. Yet they do claim ownership ... go figure

Quote from: Qwert on October 18, 2012, 12:56:14 AM
So, I was right. In the past, I was like you are now. It was until I've read the Bible; both Old and New Testament. It's rather hard to understand New Testament without reading The Old Testament; only then you can see how illogical the whole book is.

No! You are wrong. When i've finished reading the both old and new testament, that was then i've found out the real plan and purpose of God. 


AND IT WAS SOOOW GOOD AND A VERY VERY CLEVER THINKING OF A SUPREME GOD.


But its so sad you didn't get it, in spite of Gods love to humanity. 


You know what bro. Sometimes its a matter of intellectual pride. as i have said before, you have pray to God first with real HUMILITY.
before he will show you the way. and i want you to know that He is real God, i mean He knows your heart if it is serious or not. of course He is our designers.


If you were just looking for fault, well, satans is the masters of fault for you not to continue. and always satans makes your hearts to become angry to God. and that is really the purpose of satan, to DECEIVE. SO THAT HE HAS A COMPANY IN HELL.


If you are looking for fault then satan will make lots of fault, and from there you see fault and say Bible is illogical.


So if not the Bible, what book then can be trusted? well, no more. since only the bible were Holy spirit is inspired. 


so long bro. i'm doing all my best to explain in spite of my low ability to speak in english.


But it is not accident why i am here, cause i believe, God is using me for all of you there to hear this words. 


I HAVE ALREADY WROTE HOW TO BE SAVE AND GROW IN THIS SITE, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SEARCH AND ACCEPT.




Satan's wants us : DECEIVE, FIGHTING, UNSURE, ILLOGICAL AND PRIDE.




HERE IS GOD WANTS FOR US: PEACE, JOY, FAITH AND LOVE.
                                               so whats wrong for that.
                                               all he want is for our own good.
                                               is there an illogical in that?


When adam and eve are peaceful in eden, then who  ruin or destroy the relationship between God and Man?.


So therefore God just only want that good relationship back ok.    He even gave his only begotten son just for us.


Its a matter of principle fighting between good and evil.




AND THAT WAS A GREAT PLAN. HIS AMAZING GRACE.


God Bless all of you
Tito L. Oracion 

Quote from: hoptoad on October 18, 2012, 02:49:02 AM
The bible is a "great" collection of stories, nothing more. Christians place so much emphasis on the "resurrection" of christ, and claim that christ is the only one to have been resurrected after death. They won't acknowledge  pre christian history, and see that Prometheus, and Osiris, and Vishnu, et al, also were "resurrected".

Christians can not claim unique ownership of the resurrection story, because such stories of resurrection pre date christianity by thousands of years. Yet they do claim ownership ... go figure

Is that all you can see in the Bible? your must be kidding, you kid
You must know the purpose of Jesus Christ why he resurrected.


i don't actually know the purpose of prometheus and osiris and vishnu why they resurrected. lol 
what book did you read about that, is the Holy spirit also inspired with that book?. oh wow    you make me laugh


what we acknowledge is if their existence has something to do with the plan of God or it is just a conflicts. 


be wise bro like the maji. 

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on October 18, 2012, 03:23:41 AM

No! You are wrong. When i've finished reading the both old and new testament, that was then i've found out the real plan and purpose of God. 

I've found the real plan and purpose of of the guys who wrote the book too. You call them "God"?