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Overunity Machines Forum



Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: DaveBrit on October 25, 2012, 01:42:25 PM
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"Oh, and don't forget:  If you turn up gravity, the system works better."


or substitute H2O with a denser / hydrophobic fluid.
Dave, I quite think you are pulling my leg. You, and the other Discerning Dave as well. Lateral gravity! Who knew?

But note in the sim the presence of the "springs" that are showing the result of having a _compressible_ gas as one of the parts of the system. I think that if you fill all the air spaces with an incompressible fluid of a different density than water, you are removing one of the energy storage mechanisms in the system. I have asked several times if anyone has actually tested or demonstrated a fully liquid-filled system to see if it works the same, worse, or better, but as usual all we have is "mrwayne sez", no actual evidence of any kind that such a system has been built, tested, and runs itself with greater effect. I've even suggested a convenient non-toxic alternative to mercury for such a system.

DaveBrit

Quote from: TinselKoala on October 25, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
I've even suggested a convenient non-toxic alternative to mercury for such a system.

TK,
Please share the alternative material name once again.

Thanks,
Dave 

Red_Sunset

Quote from: correcaminos on October 25, 2012, 11:27:43 AM
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Thank you for pointing this post out.
Please answer the following questions:

1.. Wayne claims that the ZED does not create energy, correct?  Do you agree?
Your understanding is correct, the Zed energy output can never be more than generated by the lift capability.

2.. Wayne also states that an airconditioner is OU, correct? Do you agree?
Yes, as in reference to the heat pump used in a aircon system, the overall aircon system as we know it is not OU
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Red_Sunset

Quote from: DiscerningDave on October 25, 2012, 01:21:13 PM
................................................    (The construction of the actual machine itself is sufficiently described by the outstanding animation on the HER site, so I will skip the details of the machine design and focus on describing how it
manages to be self-running and over unity.)
Here's how it works:   
.........................................  Additional improvements can be had by incorporating a hydro assist, which utilizes the lateral gravitational field.  This allows the ZED to transfer the Core Energy laterally, yielding creative entropy disruption.
Oh, and don't forget:  If you turn up gravity, the system works better.
There you have it, the Over Unity Diamond in all its glory!
Dave,
You made a good start for making sense of it all, but could you attempt to word it in plain English, and outline which process are throwing up the sought after diamonds. 
Regards,

Red_Sunset

Quote from: TinselKoala on October 25, 2012, 01:01:02 PM
In the animation ............................ What do these cylinders do?  The top cylinders of these stacks drive, by pressure and suction, the horizontal weight-changing rams.
So it appears that the middle cylinders are driving nothing-- just each other in a closed loop of equal volumes. Is this just another minor part of the weight-shift system that shifts the weight of the cylinder full of hydraulic fluid from one side to the other?
The top cylinders are driving the horizontal rams. So that leaves the bottom, larger cylinders of these stacks. All the pistons of these cylinders are connected and are driving/driven by the rising and lowering of the floating assembly, and the larger cylinders are connected through some unclear valvulation to some black boxes. 
Can anyone explain the middle cylinders of the vertical stacks, and what the valves and black boxes do with respect to the larger, lowest of the three cylinders of the vertical stacks? And is this system driving the motion, or being driven by it, or both at different times? It is clearly shifting the weight of the hydraulic fluid from one side to the other, acting through the coaxial pistons, in synch with the water weight changes within each side, but is it doing anything else? It's not clear to me what's going on here, because of the valves and black boxes.
The vertical hydraulic ram on top of the risers is the load and weight ram.
-  The bottom portion is the load ram that captures the stroke energy and stores it into the load accumulator (black box)
-  The middle portion is the weight ram, in the balance see-saw setup, as one zed strokes, the other one descends and the ram produces the descend riser weight for the descending zed.( and naturally an weight load for the stroking zed). This ram could technically be replaced by a concrete block of a certain weight (as by design)
-  The top ram operates the horizontal ram that increases the outer head during stroke
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