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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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TinselKoala

Is that your vibrator motor on the lower left? Nice.

It would also be nice if you had some kind of transparent plastic ruler attached to the whatever it is, just for convenient reference marks.


powercat

More new promising statements from Wayne Travis....again
http://hydroenergyrevolution.com/index.php/current-objectives
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I spoke with Mark this morning regarding time lines, and travel arrangements -
we have selected a prevalidation member to come this weekend if we are ready
and Mark happens to be locked into a conference or is traveling.
This member will visit us and then report to Mark, at that point a decision will
be made if we need to arrange schedules and add more data collection,
or if Mark can arrange a return.
To be very clear, we will not rush things -
we will do what is in the best interests of our long term goals,
the temporary alternate is just preplanning for contingencies.
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

fletcher

That is why Mark D called for a long duration run test of at least two days.

Its hard to argue against a device that self sustains itself & power output is maintained [does not slow down] by way of overcoming internal losses & doing a reasonable amount of real Work [load] which would deplete energy reserves given to the system at set-up if this were its only energy source - this applies equally to reciprocating format or a rotary format.

As TK & others have been saying you don't have to understand the physics to see the obvious - just be provided with evidence that a device does what is said it will do - the independent validation team will confirm their findings & also confirm that likely no fraud was involved if they have unfettered access & the test is a success.

A simple demonstration test that doesn't require data collection stations etc is to have the device lift via a pulley a known weight vertically - let it rise, then fall [use some method to disengage & let it come down again] then be lifted again in a repeating cycle - the cumulative Joules of Potential Energy given to the weight can easily calculated - an even simpler method is to attach a prony brake as has been mentioned.

MileHigh

In my opinion having a "prevalidation member" visit is a non-starter.  There is no point to it.  Two people need to go and bring camping equipment and plant themselves by the device and see what happens.  They can take turns sleeping and monitor the system 24/24 for a few days straight.  They need to see it driving a load of some sort.

We can't have a repeat of the Sterling Allen South African trip fiasco.  Poor Sterling was like the chump in a 1920s silent movie in that case.  That was a classic case of reality being stranger than fiction.  Just ghastly considering how long Sterling has been at this game.

Like TK said, if the device is set up outside on the ground then there is always the possibility that some electrical cables were buried in the ground months before.  I don't know how to cover that issue 100% but seeing it set up on top of a hard surface like concrete or asphalt would not be perfect but would be preferable.

For Mark:  My suggestion is that before anybody goes anywhere you discuss these kinds of issues beforehand.  Ask what the load on the system will be, how it will be implemented, and how it will be measured.  Get pictures of the setup, confirm that your people can watch the system 24 on 24, etc.  I know you know what I am about to say, but I will say it for all:  No need to worry about all sorts of sensor data that Wayne might want to show.  Just the load and how it is measured and watch the device in operation.  I would suggest that they camp out for at least 5 days.