I have to say there is a very bad vibe in this forum with page after page of character assassination going on, it looks to me like blatant bullying. Putting aside the issue of the claims and the experiment how is it that Hardcastle is attacked but Stephen Hawkings was not?

quote from his book A Brief History of Time:

This was a form of insurance policy for me. I have done a lot of work on black holes, and it would all be wasted if it turned out that black holes do not exist. But in that case, I would have the consolation of winning my bet, which would win me four years of the magazine Private Eye. If black holes do exist, Kip will get one year of Penthouse.

Or should we start a thread attacking Hawkings as a purveyor of pornography?

Quote from: doublehelix on January 19, 2013, 03:55:15 PM
I have to say there is a very bad vibe in this forum with page after page of character assassination going on, it looks to me like blatant bullying. Putting aside the issue of the claims and the experiment how is it that Hardcastle is attacked but Stephen Hawkings was not?

quote from his book A Brief History of Time:

This was a form of insurance policy for me. I have done a lot of work on black holes, and it would all be wasted if it turned out that black holes do not exist. But in that case, I would have the consolation of winning my bet, which would win me four years of the magazine Private Eye. If black holes do exist, Kip will get one year of Penthouse.

Or should we start a thread attacking Hawkings as a purveyor of pornography?

That's very different and you know it, Hawkings is a local boy around here (cambridge) and his jest was done with a certain (mathematically proven) knowledge ie. he knew his bet was won years ahead!

To compare PJH with SH is a little silly.

I don't think PJH is the next SH!

Quote from: doublehelix on January 19, 2013, 03:55:15 PM
I have to say there is a very bad vibe in this forum with page after page of character assassination going on, it looks to me like blatant bullying. Putting aside the issue of the claims and the experiment how is it that Hardcastle is attacked but Stephen Hawkings was not?

quote from his book A Brief History of Time:

This was a form of insurance policy for me. I have done a lot of work on black holes, and it would all be wasted if it turned out that black holes do not exist. But in that case, I would have the consolation of winning my bet, which would win me four years of the magazine Private Eye. If black holes do exist, Kip will get one year of Penthouse.

Or should we start a thread attacking Hawkings as a purveyor of pornography?

Well..... doublehelix, newbie..... here's the PM that I received a few days ago, from Philip J Hardcastle, unedited ... or whatever he calls himself. Who is being bullied, libelled, character assassinated?

Quote from: Philip J Hardcastle

Al, Tin, whatever you want to call yourself, you are the biggest loser!


I read between the lines here and at moletrap that you are an aging and failed drunk.


What I understand is that you have no money, no home of your own, and no woman in your life.


You do nothing other than masturbate your ego and dream of things you once were capable of.


You probably have some other issues to deal, focus on those and leave me out of your vitriol.

Now.... would you care to reconsider your remarks, doublehelix, or focus them a bit better?  Because it looks to me like you are very much off target here.

Why isn't Hawking criticized here? Maybe it's because he isn't making absurd claims of a free energy device that violates 2LoT with no evidence, and he hasn't missed deadline after deadline after self-imposed deadline, and he doesn't keep moving his goalposts, and ... he doesn't insult people like Philip J Hardcastle (or whatever he wants to call himself) does.

Incidentally... it is Hawking, not Hawkings. If you are going to cite references and quote people out of context, you might at least have the courtesy to get people's names right.

Quote from: doublehelix on January 19, 2013, 03:55:15 PM
I have to say there is a very bad vibe in this forum with page after page of character assassination going on

I've been trying to talk to elisha about his behavior.

QuoteHow is it that Hardcastle is attacked but Stephen Hawkings was not?

There is no "attack" you're kind of imagining things.  Stupidly I might add.  Sure it's fun to talk about Philip as offering wanking material as a reward for jerking him off.  The, seemingly obvious and more salient point is about someone who took his bet so seriously that he was willing to sue me over comments I made concerning his behavior elsewhere.  Again, he was willing to apply the rule of law to someone over this bet.  To hurt someone financially over this bet.  Now he's peddling "adult" magazines.

  The point here, which you tried so very, very hard to miss is that whatever one thinks about Playboy/girl it is hard to take the bet seriously anymore.  His preferred choice of "entertainment" is, for the most part irrelevant.  He could have offered a subscription to "Sparkle World" or the boxed set of BBC's Sherlock (which is actually superb entertainment).   He also reduced the cash award by more than a third.

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This was a form of insurance policy for me. I have done a lot of work on black holes, and it would all be wasted if it turned out that black holes do not exist. But in that case, I would have the consolation of winning my bet, which would win me four years of the magazine Private Eye. If black holes do exist, Kip will get one year of Penthouse.

Again it seems that this isn't a serious bet.  Think about it (thinking is good!), if Hawking lost and didn't pay out.  Would you expect Thorne to sue him for the sum of "one Penthouse subscription"?  Would you expect a university that provided Philip with a disconfirming experiment not to if Philip just said "Oh, tough luck" instead of writing a check?

Quote from: TinselKoala on January 19, 2013, 03:48:38 PM
I think YOU should do the 10$ experiment, Elisha. If you want to correct someone.... look in the mirror. You can not talk about something if you have not experienced it yourself... so let's see your work.

TK,
I believe she did do the $10. experiment, and did post the results.