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Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".

Started by Farmhand, April 21, 2013, 09:00:24 AM

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jbignes5

 Ok so here was my point about the last link. In my real research that others here like milehigh shun or should I call him Verpies. Yes his speeches definitely sound just like Verpies. In fact Verpies is known to have multiple accounts. See Verpies has a thing for me and any time he can he uses his alt accounts to try and discredit me. This makes me think I'm really onto something here.


So back to the direction I was going.


Lets look at what current science knows about my last link. The Laser. This set of clips is about the laser. I know what does this have to do with the bifilar coil. Well.. To be honest not much but lets look at where it parallels magnetic interactions. And yes from what we know today light is just a electro magnetic phenomena.


  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgivGZqFcfY    Part 1
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR0LmJbcUxU Part 2
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXGBmExbumI Part 3a
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVqoVl-CYKo   Part 3b


Just hear me out with these. If we understand that light is a wave and that in these teachings they show us how to create an oscillator for light then we should be able to do the same thing with slower magnetic phenomena right? Isn't that what is being taught here.


What I am proposing is a new kind of oscillator that is much like a Laser. The gain medium would be matter like powder ferrite rods. Much like a laser uses a gain medium of ruby or gasses we would use what magnetic medium is good for it. The only gain medium we could use would be ferrite or iron. Since iron would be too much of a loss then there are some nice high permeable ferrites on the market. When you watch the videos keep in mind that you can always substitute electromagnetism for light. Even in the examples of oscillators they give they have a plain tank oscillator as an example. Yes it would be slower but it is the same concept. A magnetic field laser to run the oscillations into our coil.


Don't pay attention to Milehigh. He is not here to find anything outside of his little safe box. He is not here for overunity research, he is here to debunk Overunity and to discredit the ones who are here in honesty for this community to find a better solution to our current problems. This is what they do. In order to work in this field we must form a hardened armor against such people. Do not let them distract you with their mumbo jumbo and attacks on yours and my credibility. Forge ahead and do the experiments. See for yourself what is going on. If you fail then try again and again and again. Watch and observe the experiment and record your findings. Forge on without paying attention to the ones who make a living off of all of us. They are parasites to the human condition. They bleed us of our precious time and imagination and stifle the creative process because it would not gain them anything.

Milehigh is not here for anything but to keep the status Quo. He has admitted this. He is here to keep the sheeple just that, sheeple. They do not want another Tesla because he would free us from the chains that bind us. Those chains are cleverly devised over tens or hundreds of years. They chain us with their math and keep us from making sense of the now labeled "anomalous" transients. Now back to the discussion.

My original thought was to design something that was proof positive that this concept and observations are in fact based in reality. Not to listen to little men who make tons of cash off of you and me and shun anything that breaks that control over us. Just like the creator of the original light laser we must not listen to the detractors and do the experiments and learn what is real. Not what is chaining us as slaves to these guys. Do not let them stifle your wonder or chain your imagination. If others had listened to them where would we be today?

So what is this question Milehigh? In all of this you have never even asked the question. In fact you have done nothing but say how wrong I have been about even the most simple of inductors? WHATS IS THE QUESTION oh Wonderful OZ.

Here is something I bet you didn't know all knowing OZ. I have a degree in Electronic Technician. I have worked in the field as an electronics technician for over 10 years professionally. I have worked in the field of computers as a Computer Technician for over 20 years and I do not take this area of interest lightly. I was the best warranty Technician at the company I worked for. I was a sub-contractor for many Computer stores for 15 of those 20 years.

Here is a question for you. What makes up a magnetic field, heck what makes up an electric field? How can these fields have order (lines)? None of these questions have been or can be answered. Yet you believe them. If not then Coil theory goes out the door because they talk about lines cutting the matter of the copper. Your theories are bunk and full of made up concepts and just because you created math to prove them does not make them any more real then what I am proposing or what I have experienced in my whole life. Care to explain what causes a toroid transformer to work? Shall we explain that one? If there is a core and the core acts like a sponge to the magnetic field then how does the toroid work? The magnetic field is supposed to be inside of the circular iron or core material, then how does the magnetic field lines cut the wire on the secondary even on the lowest of power levels? From the current understanding it can not cut the secondary, yet it does by all explanations.

So to answer the absurd example posed by MileHigh. Who are you to tell me about the dangers of experimenting. I know full well what the dangers are and in many of my postings I have always talked about safety of the experimenter. If one is experimenting in this field they better know the dangers of that experimenting. You posed some ridiculous example of me scrambling someones brain? WTF is that about? A neural stimulator is used for muscle stimulation not brain stimulation? What kind of crap is that? If it is a medical device your talking about, why would someone be using a neural stimulator that was not designed with shielding to protect the device?

Now you are making up absurd claims of harming others to make your attack have any meaning? Really?

In the first place I never experiment around others. I have done most of my experiments in the basement completely surrounded by the ground and no one above me. To make such an absurd claim is getting desperate and very pointless. Anyone who knows me personally or on these forums knows that I am all about safety when experimenting with any experiment.

Lets talk about safety of our current AC system. Have you ever walked around your house with a good EMF meter? Do you know that AC from the wires is broadcasted into our bodies by this system? Did you know that people living under power lines have a 30% higher chance of getting Cancers? So to speak about safety at this point is absurd. The current system will kill you faster then a Tesla type device ever designed. In fact Tesla when experimenting with his impulses and the Longitudinal wave said at the proper cycles per second that it was most beneficial to the human condition. That most life including Plant life thrives in it's radiations with the proper cycles a second. This value is starting at around 2k a second.

If you are trying to state that I'm using RF you couldn't be further from the truth. Impulse technology is not Hertzian. Hertzian waves are Transverse waves not longitudinal waves. They propagate in two different methods. Of which you have no idea because you reject the concepts before you even know anything about them. When using the bifilar coil you must use Longitudinal waves, not herttzian waves. No wonder you didn't see anything from the bifilar coil thread that you dropped in on and never did the experiments to prove anything, either to yourself or others, this because of your limited belief system and you lack of understanding and experience with Tesla technology.

You are out of your field here and I respectfully ask you to not comment on my posts again until you educate yourself on these topics Verpies. The evidence that you are an alt of Verpies is damning. You have the same style of writing and the same misconceptions as Verpies. The same below the belt attacks as Verpies too. Just give it up ok. You are not gonna stop me or anyone else from researching this technology. End of story.

MileHigh

Jbignes5:

I am not Verpies.  Certainly I have seen his name on the forums and must have read his postings.

QuoteSee Verpies has a thing for me and any time he can he uses his alt accounts to try and discredit me. This makes me think I'm really onto something here.

Rosemary Ainslie says similar things but certainly she isn't onto something.

QuoteDon't pay attention to Milehigh. He is not here to find anything outside of his little safe box. He is not here for overunity research, he is here to debunk Overunity and to discredit the ones who are here in honesty for this community to find a better solution to our current problems. This is what they do. In order to work in this field we must form a hardened armor against such people. Do not let them distract you with their mumbo jumbo and attacks on yours and my credibility. Forge ahead and do the experiments. See for yourself what is going on. If you fail then try again and again and again. Watch and observe the experiment and record your findings. Forge on without paying attention to the ones who make a living off of all of us. They are parasites to the human condition. They bleed us of our precious time and imagination and stifle the creative process because it would not gain them anything.

That's the old cliche of the paranoid manifesto.  I am just here for fun and to comment on stuff from time to time.  Like I discussed qualifying a coil as a two-terminal device.  Did you read that?  I make a living off of being here?  In your fantasies only Jbignes5.  I am a parasite on the human condition?  That's a goodie.  The truth is a substantial number of "free energy professionals" are parasites on the human condition.  John Rohner of Inteligentry is one of many many examples.

QuoteMilehigh is not here for anything but to keep the status Quo. He has admitted this. He is here to keep the sheeple just that, sheeple. They do not want another Tesla because he would free us from the chains that bind us. Those chains are cleverly devised over tens or hundreds of years. They chain us with their math and keep us from making sense of the now labeled "anomalous" transients. Now back to the discussion.

Manifesto part 2 and it's the same old story.  I am not here to "keep the status quo," you are just constructing a form of Straw Man argument.  I would be thrilled if someone solved our energy problems with some new ideas.  Sometimes when someone makes comments that are so off base and nonsensical that they can corrupt other people's understanding of electronics I will comment.  That's exactly what you did so I commented.

QuoteSo what is this question Milehigh? In all of this you have never even asked the question. In fact you have done nothing but say how wrong I have been about even the most simple of inductors? WHATS IS THE QUESTION oh Wonderful OZ.

You have an ideal inductor of three Henries.   You connect the inductor to an ideal voltage source of seven volts.  What will happen?

QuoteHere is a question for you. What makes up a magnetic field, heck what makes up an electric field? How can these fields have order (lines)? None of these questions have been or can be answered.

I know those questions are right out of the free energy enthusiast playbook where it says ask them if someone is talking technical with you and you need a diversion.

QuoteYour theories are bunk and full of made up concepts and just because you created math to prove them does not make them any more real then what I am proposing or what I have experienced in my whole life.

So it appears that you are anti-math because math is hard.  And then you dismiss the theories that bring you heat and light and power your computer and run the guts inside your computer?  So does that mean you are in favour of the dumbing down of society?  lol

I will respond more in part 2.

MileHigh

jbignes5

 Respond to this then:


http://www.overunity.com/10043/litmus-test-fail-by-milehigh/

On second thought just don't respond ok. Your credibility is null.

"I know those questions are right out of the free energy enthusiast playbook where it says ask them if someone is talking technical with you and you need a diversion."

It is not a diversion it is a valid question that is much like yours, a diversion did you call it? So your question when getting beat up so bad is to divert the Focus of this topic.

Here is another good question. Lets look at when you use impulses into the very same coil? What happens. Now what happens when you apply those impulses to the bifilar coil. <- this you don't know at all since you have done zero work at all in this field. I mean for gods sake you don't even know that transistors can be made at home and relatively easy too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qph8BNrnLY

This is a person who is demystifying electronics. Completely explains everything in the process and is able to do it at home. Please just stop with the crap you are pushing.

For the last time I am not anti math but when you apply mathematics to explain something why the need to make things up to make it work like the electron? Then apply all that made up math to support your other crap claims.

The first link IS who you are and when called out you either ignore it and switch the subject or you spout crap and expect people to take it for granted that it is fact.

I on the other hand am not stating a fact I am stating my direction in experiments that I think will help us understand energy with a complete concept. These are experiments that are scheduled to be done and I posted them here because they are relevant to the discussion in this thread.

Your intent is to discredit, attack or even discourage people to ask why or how and then prove it to them selves.

Again the bifilar coil is not an ordinary coil. It does not operate in the same way and doesn't have the push back (false current, self inductace) that a normal solenoid coil has to any current besides they use them in wire wound resistors. If they acted like normal coils off the shelf then wire wound resistors are null and void. Obviously they are not and you argument is false. A normal coil when hooked up to a normal current like DC will resist the current flow as it charges up. This is due to the self inductance and the resistance of the wire in the normal coil. Eventually the coil will choke out the current and no current will flow until there is a change in the current. But a bifilar coil uses the capacity between the pairs of wires to cancel the self inductance. This allows the coil to convert all current into the "magnetic and electric fields" and will not resist the current flow. It also will not gain in voltage as well like a traditional coil, that process must be experimented with and data collected to figure out the difference.

Bifilar coils will in my opinion excel in impulse technology since there is nothing in the way of a very high voltage or current impulse. This will allow the coil to convert all of the impulse into the other two components. These impulses as seen by my laser example can have values into the extreme wattage values. Mostly due to the very high currents involved. And with a new oscillator like I proposed getting those high voltage impulses would be very easy and better then solid state products now that can not handle such huge currents or voltages.

So again for someone who doesn't know much about this process I would just stay quiet before you leave this forum like you did at the other forum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impulse_generator

And as for your last statement the only dumbing down of society is you and how you are debasing the free thinkers of our society for fun as you put it. So continue to act like a fool and attacking me and others I will be talking to the owner of this forum, Stephan. This will only be done if you continue to attack me or others.

MileHigh

Jbignes5:

Okay here we go with part 2.

QuoteCare to explain what causes a toroid transformer to work? Shall we explain that one? If there is a core and the core acts like a sponge to the magnetic field then how does the toroid work? The magnetic field is supposed to be inside of the circular iron or core material, then how does the magnetic field lines cut the wire on the secondary even on the lowest of power levels? From the current understanding it can not cut the secondary, yet it does by all explanations.

See, here Jbignes5, you are just exposing yourself as being clueless about electronics and also as being a bad influence on anybody learning about electronics.  I am just speechless that you are even posing these questions.  I suppose that the conclusion is that you don't understand how a toroidal transformer works.  What is implied by that is that you don't understand the basic concepts about magnetics.

QuoteSo to answer the absurd example posed by MileHigh. Who are you to tell me about the dangers of experimenting.

I gave a purely hypothetical example not to be taken literally.  Even the comment about a "neural stimulator" was purely hypothetical and not to be taken literally.  But the message is valid:  "Teaching" people nonsensical incorrect stuff about electronics so that they don't have a clue what they are doing but they believe that they know what they are doing could put an experimenter at risk.

QuoteThe current system will kill you faster then a Tesla type device ever designed. In fact Tesla when experimenting with his impulses and the Longitudinal wave said at the proper cycles per second that it was most beneficial to the human condition. That most life including Plant life thrives in it's radiations with the proper cycles a second. This value is starting at around 2k a second.

You are just talking more Tesla fantasy fan boi talk there Jbignes5.

QuoteIf you are trying to state that I'm using RF you couldn't be further from the truth. Impulse technology is not Hertzian. Hertzian waves are Transverse waves not longitudinal waves. They propagate in two different methods.

Has anybody done the "moon bounce test" yet to prove that longitudinal waves travel faster than transverse waves?  No?  This is just more fan boi talk.  When you work on your bench and say to yourself "I am working with impulse technology using longitudinal waves" your are just fooling yourself.  When you work on the bench what you observe is reality staring you in the face.  You are then superimposing your Tesla fantasies on what you see and drawing incorrect conclusions.  That's the crux of the problem.  Do you know how many times I have been told by beginning experimenters that "this is 'cold' electricity and not understood by conventional science?"  Of course it's not "cold" electricity at all, they simply don't understand what they are observing and they have been corrupted by people like you.  That's a serious issue.

QuoteWhen using the bifilar coil you must use Longitudinal waves, not herttzian waves.

Big Tesla is watching you.  Ignorance is Truth.

QuoteYou have the same style of writing and the same misconceptions as Verpies.

Well I am not Verpies and you are the one with misconceptions.  I know I am not going to stop you from doing your thing.  At times though people like you should be called out to account for what you say.  It's a healthy process and we need it.  Without it there is a danger that your power of "ignorance and dumbing down" will adversely affect too many people.  A person with a limited and corrupted grasp of basic electronics needs to be held in check from time to time.  You stated a lot of fantastical and nonsensical stuff about the Tesla "cap coil" and I decided to comment.  It's unlikely that I will get into a full debate with you again.

My advice to you is to learn the basics about electronics and it will help you a lot and also give you a new and better understanding of Tesla.

MileHigh

MileHigh

Jbignes5:

QuoteRespond to this then:


http://www.overunity.com/10043/litmus-test-fail-by-milehigh/

On second thought just don't respond ok. Your credibility is null.

You are pointing to an old thread where I already responded.

So you are trying deflection again.  I asked you the question and you are unable to answer it:

<<< You have an ideal inductor of three Henries.   You connect the inductor to an ideal voltage source of seven volts.  What will happen?  >>>

Think about this:  You made two long postings all about the Tesla "cap coil" a.k.a "series bifilar" coil extolling all the virtues for this device and making all sorts of outlandish and nonsensical claims about it and sounding very authoritative about it.

So I ask you to give us the solution for one of the simplest circuits possible that has only one component connected to the power supply, a coil.  And you can't answer the question.

It's your credibility that is null, dude.

MileHigh