Look, get Gyula to run 9 volt A.C. through his iron core biflilar and test the magnetic pull and heat. Then try and run that same 9 volt A.C. current through the single wire version, then compare the heat and pull to the bifilars. I can tell you right off the bat that the single wire coil will very shortly grow too hot to touch, while the series bifilar remains cool! Why don't you try it "Hawkings"? Practicly everyone has tried to run A.C through a single wire electromagnet and caused an electicel fire. 

Quote from: synchro1 on July 15, 2013, 04:18:36 PM
Everything I explained about "Impulse Magnetization" has been ignored. JLN demonstrates %100 energy transfer between his serial pancakes with no heat loss what so ever in his Gegene experiments. Regular coils would fry if you attempted that. Stop trying to trivialize these differences, and the way his coil for electro magnets worked had nothing what so ever to do with running D.C. current through the coil.   
             

Hi synhcro1,

Yes I agree, Tesla's Coil for electromagnet patent had nothing whatsoever to do with running DC current through the coil. However, it was you who brought the paper clip tests with the nails into this topic as an example, remember? And in that link http://www.tesla-coil-builder.com/bifilar_electromagnet.htm  it was no where mentioned that the nail should be treated first by Impulse Magnetization i.e. first you make a permanent magnet from the nail and then pick up the paper clips, right? Please show me where it is written?

PS here is a permanent copy of the content of the page in above link because sometimes the link does not work:
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Bifilar_Electromagnet.pdf

QuoteLook, get Gyula to run 9 volt A.C. through his iron core biflilar and test the magnetic pull and heat. Then try and run that same 9 volt A.C. current through the single wire version, then compare the heat and pull to the bifilars. I can tell you right off the bat that the single wire coil will very shortly grow too hot to touch, while the series bifilar remains cool! Why don't you try it "Hawkings"!

If it was only that simple.  You are not specifying the frequency.  Nor can you just compare two coils like you are stating.  You are not even discussing how much inductance each coil has.

Beyond that, Synchro1, the resistive heat produced in the wires in all honesty is not a valid way to compare the two coils.

"Resistive heat produced in the wires in all honesty is not a valid way to compare the two coils."


This is utter rubbish! 

If you want make a case for your statement Synchro1, by all means go ahead.

Just a few sentences will not be a strong case.  Please, do a half-page or do a full-page or more write-up to explain your reasoning.