Quote from: baroutologos on November 13, 2013, 03:13:38 AM
I can make a vid if anyone cares.

I care and it is an interesting observation.
Please make sure to analyze both the current & voltage waveforms in the primary windings.

I guess I've been on the wrong thread for a bit...


A little on akula; his coil schematic has his bifilar cross-connected to ground; this is how my pickup actually is also. 





I wish I had some amp meters that worked.  my one meter was working until I loaned it to a friend, now I get no readings *sigh*.  Maybe some analog meters, strikes me as being able to take more abuse than these solid state things.

http://www.youtube.com/edit?video_id=vAJYLTFiUeU


I'm starting to think there's something to this...


pretty sure I can run a second oscillator off the collected voltage from the secondary


hooray? for 1:1 air core transformers


schematic and simulations here...
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg376800/#msg376800


my circuit is most like the third image; minus the open coil resonant transformers... but including the load from one side of the mazzilli tank to ground; the led and load on the bifilar-cross grounded pickup...


but if you connect the coils that(akula's) way ... the differential ends would ... immediately satisfy without a load... and should be a net 0 (?) or a 2x wave?  (runs off to measure and think more)


Ya; so shorting the ends yields a 0 voltage.  But maybe the other end isn't grounded in his case... but still... don't know what effect that coil is supposed to have.  (coil 2 on akula0083 coil schematic)

Quote from: baroutologos on November 13, 2013, 03:13:38 AM

I can make a vid if anyone cares.

Dear baroutologos.

Yes please!! 

στην υγειά σας Grum.

Quote from: Grumage on November 12, 2013, 01:24:14 PM
Dear Khwartz.

I have had a busy day. Sorry they are late!! 

Cheers Grum.

Very thanks dear grumage

Here I paste back the text going with the three schematics you uploaded for me in your post « Reply #3203 on: November 12, 2013, 07:24:14 PM »:

Quote from: Khwartz on November 10, 2013, 12:22:13 PM
Message for Hoppy and Verpies.

I know guies your knowledge, skills and good equipment for experimentations and check the logic of a circuit.

May I present you both the following schematic for checking what the academic theories would give theoretically about the values obtained?

The purpose of this circuit is to test the simplest reduction of checking if we can have overunity just by fully using BEFM and resonances.

This test-circuit would fonction in only 3 times (and not more!).

Indeed, if we can acheive o.u. in this sequence then it is just about to repeate it but by focusing on only these 3 times we sightly simplify the tests.

So, this should work like this:

TIME 0:

Ci, the capacitor which will be use as power input, is disconnected of the inner circuit. (We use only capacitors here because of the obvious simplicity and fiability of the measurements of energy storing in these very simple components.) It is charged with as hight voltage as possible.

Cp, primary capacitor, and Cs, secondary capacitor, are totaly empty. They are chosen to maximalize the resonance with the coils Ls and Lp.

TIME 1:

Ci, is connected to the inner circuit as briefly as possible.

Cp, is disconnected and Cs, start to collect some energy in the first rush of current in the secondary circuit (current only "positive" direction.)



TIME 2:

Ci, is disconnected as soon as the BEFM in the primary circuit start to take place.

Cp, is connected same time and start to collect BEFM energy. Cs, continue to collect energy by the second rush of current in the secondary circuit (current only "negative" direction.)

Cp and Cs remain connected during the necessarely following alternative changes of directions of the current until no more oscillation.

FINAL CHECKING:

We check the lost of energy in Ci: deltaWi; the energy stored in Cs, WCs; the energy stored in Cp, WCp. If: WCs + WCp > deltaWi we have overunity.

What do you think? What would tell the chiffers based on our ordinary academic theories? And could you try this if you think it is worthy to counter-check the chiffers with the values we could then obtain in experimentation?

(If you follow me on this test, we could open a new thread about...).

Cheers.

Quote from: Khwartz on November 10, 2013, 12:22:13 PM
TIME 1:
Ci, is connected to the inner circuit as briefly as possible.

Cp, is disconnected and Cs, start to collect some energy in the first rush of current in the secondary circuit (current only "positive" direction.)

Why "as briefly as possible" ?
What is an "inner circuit" ?  Is it the primary winding or the Cp inside the bridge ?

If the answer is "the primary winding" then connecting Ci to it "as briefly as possible" might transfer infinitely small energy to the primary winding (essentially zero) depending on the polarity of the transformer.   
This is because in the moment that a capacitor is connected to an inductor, no current flows at all.  With time, this current increases according to the sine function (undamped if there is no resistance) . See the section "transient states" here.

Quote from: Khwartz on November 10, 2013, 12:22:13 PM
TIME 2:
Ci, is disconnected as soon as the BEFM in the primary circuit start to take place.

Could you rephrase this condition of commutation, to read like this?:

"Ci is disconnected as soon as current in the primary winding reaches..."
or
"Ci is disconnected as soon as voltage across Ci reaches..."

Also, are you assuming an ideal diodes and ideal transformer with 100% mutual inductance?
Finally, what is the polarity of the transformer?  See dot convention.