Let us not also forget that Honest Wayne Travis spoke of his "patent" many times in the early days. He had to be shown that it might actually be illegal to try to sell something, claiming it is "patented", when all there really is, is a patent _application_ that has been filed, but not yet granted.

This distinction between an actual granted patent, and a mere patent application (especially a WIPO app) seems to be lost on a lot of "free energy inventors". Travis's podmate Rosemary Ainslie did the same thing, claiming a patent that she never actually held.

I think it was actually  minnie, who first pointed out the implausibility of using water heads to make the kind of power outputs that Honest Wayne has claimed. Once we got to looking at the issue, I then was more interested at the hydraulic fluid volume flow rate and pressure needed to turn an ordinary hydraulic motor driving an ordinary PM alternator to make the multi-kW output power he touted. Sure, make your magic with Zeds, whatever. How do you get the high pressure, high volume flow of _hydraulic fluid_ to turn the ordinary parts downstream of the Zeds? There is nothing in any of what we have seen that can produce the flow of hydraulic fluid necessary to turn a generator at 65 HP or even 5 HP.

"Zed is dead baby".

(Bruce Willis's character at the end of Pulp Fiction)

Bill

Quote from: webby1 on March 13, 2014, 01:27:21 PM
MarkE,

Is F147 correct?

Yes.

F147 is the air volume under Riser 1 in state 3.  The equation used is: 

=(Wall1Height-ST3AR1HEIGHT)*AR1CirArea+  //This is the air that is in the annular ring between the pod and innermost ring wall up to the top of the ring wall
AR2CirArea*(Wall1Height-ST3AR2HEIGHT)+ //This is the air from in between the ring wall and the riser wall
(ST3HeightIncrease*(AR1CirArea+AR2CirArea+AR1_2CirArea))+ //This is the air above the ring wall but below the original 1mm high "attic" under the ID
VerGap*AR2OD^2 //This is the original 1mm high attic under the ID

What is inescapable in all of this is that pressing down on the assembly lifts up a quantity of water and letting go allows that quantity of water to fall back down.  there is no magic.  There is no cheat on gravity.

I think the idea is to outsmart gravity by overly complicated plumbing. The problem is that gravity is too stubborn and unimaginative to be outsmarted by such efforts. Investors and cultists are not, unfortunately.