You can call these people terrorists?
They do not hide as civilians.
They sit in the trenches and wear military uniforms.
They do not do explosions in the cities during the marathon.
They do not capture the cinemas.
They fight against the invaders.
Correct to call them rebels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jITMsEU_984#t=38

Qwert,I can do a linear and structurized  conversion with you-without the help from an automatic translator-if there is a really need !


But sometimes your are giving statements -and this as emigrant(ex-Polska)imigrant(in-U.S.A)-which are question-valid and this means that there would be the need to discuss all the several
no-common positions !


                First : the highest triangle-roof point ? dialectic "Fuerst"~Duke ?
                Best: = aristocratic , by scientifical approvement ?


"America" and U.S.America are european given expressions( I mean by the Kartograph Waidenmueller honoring Americos Vespuccis expeditions ),


"Dollar" the dialectic/vulgar expression from the original european(german) expression "Thaler"(Joachims-Thal: Thaler not "salar=sold but Tal=Valley related) from which silver-mines the precious metal was transformed to the "KarlV"- Thaler and theretime representing the Silver-standart
( Gold was strictly only allowed to the "nobilitas").


mostly the U.S. citizen are using symbols period-originaer from the european culture:
showing a cultury "melting pot",amalgam !


And also -without doubts- the mostly  used symbols from the european culture is not geographical defined "continental Europe" original , also imported from the Near/Far East,mainly Mesopotamien -another melting pot region- with the ancient capital "Babel/Babylonia(near Bagdad/Iraque)".
  "Europe"-self means : "old world"eurasian-shelf west part (sun down)   
   "Asia":"old world"eurasian-east-shelf part (sun rise)
                                                                                     Fix-view-point: Fenike

I did my comments fragments-shortly,only sorted and not text-structure organized and without time-table cause there is no fixpoint,temporarly and no geographicly, in this actual discussion :
are we judging the geral world situation or one specific ,regional/bilateral,fall ?!
                                   Which region and which kind of politics ?
is the one from us in the advocatus angelii and the other in the advocatus diabolii position or are we all the gremium-judges or are we the un-/guilty active/passive cruel/misinterpreted actors ?


  Is behind the defined "as crime accused action" the reformation of an ancient standart/moral !
                            Common written or habits "iure" or individual "self-justice" ?


                           Law and order : U.N.-Charta ? NATO/ASEAN/......-Charta/Constitution ?
Is it allowed-by law and or moral -to dictate/order a minority to assimilate themself with the majority -living art- rules ?

                               Priority(representing common sense) : U.N. -Charta
                                                                       
We see several fundamentalism movements worldwide and as example named :
Taliban and Tea Party : GOD-Guerilla         Taliban prefer the expression All(u)a'h ,I think so 


But using the written-spoken rules like "I know and I (k)now" also here there is a question:
GOD and ? dialectic: GO'SH~VOICE or (G)OZ with the sin(n) of Oz-eanus/Okeanos ?
                                     The MAR and MAR-IA culture ,you know !


                 Asking a "rassul/slang"-Guerilla and a "Tea Party"-Guerilla (guerra=war) ?

                         Would we probably receive an ironic "Boston legal"-answer ?

I hope,with now (-without kappa-) a little more structure you understand that the correct view point of discussing is for me and for you and all of us ever immanent !

                                        If I am mentionally wrong than corect me !

With my best regards
                                  O-left sided 0-right sided 0-above sided
                                                                                                 Aye,Aye,Aye
                                                                                                                    OCWL


p.s.: All(uor U)AH
        they are writing from right to left ,like today the most citizen of Palastina/Palatina/Israel
        but do they mean
        a. lua the moon which is defined in portuguese as female subject ,a lua,       
        in german as male subject ,der Mond
   
        or means it


        Al-lA H.( h for holly/saint/sana) a common "Be same/Eben- Mirror-/Spiegel/espelho-image"

                                                          K and the KK
       the kappa the kaffa(r) the pilgrim the way to become "ES"(S.Freud)-same/similar   

                     which ? the double K (-Zwillingsposition) X   >T<

                                                  Reflektion

       Do you find a logic ? animus animalis bestialis refering an old greecian/gregorian

       My life and philosophy is also inspired by pytagorean harmony rules and
       the E.(I.)Kant-Principle:
       the 11th.Kategory followed by the 10.kategories ,the Deka-log,
       the natural fundamental laws of the "tit for tat" which makes part of all modern law
       constitutions:
       11.,shortly : Just  do it ! Execute ! Strictly ?

     You are nat-ive ,normally living out your life based by the fairness principle,too(or not ? -more?) :
       like russians,ukrainians,americans,germans,morros(Morocco/Maroc),..... .


                                   The (w)right to exist and the (w)right to leave
                                   included the (w)right to make faults and devotion
     
                                            Also facts/laws/thesis flexibility :
                                         written and spoken: like Morroco and Maroc
                                                                                   
                                                             Baal and Bool    (bowl)


       and Kyrills v~b (male hear-organ,the ears, deficience possibilty: mono-or polyacoustic )


  Meso-pot-amien      Baal- Balbek-Bal(Val) as Dach=Tect(sin:Himmel~HEAVEN)/Pro-Tect-ion


                                            GOD-monotheistic,but not human,UNIvERSE/ALL         Acceptable !
       
              sym-bolic:              GOD,as husband of her GODNESS AISHA                      Acceptable !   

              sym-bolic:              Poly-GODNESSES: ZEUS/NEPTUN,HERA,APHRODTE,..... Acceptable !
 
                                            Theology or Teleology ?
                    Between A(The Beginning) and Z(The End) is an endless creation story
                                  Ergo: Theology and Teleology


            Life is a mythical Methodology : you only decides about truth,your personal truth               
                                 probably you will find it as reality
                                 probably you are wrong
                                 probably it shall be wrong -for that moment and your objects           


  But- as you mean : you are living with the best    ( not best-ia  so GOD will/demands)
  and you also can see f.e. the australian Constitutional Court judgement and final decision
  with the rekapitulation of more than 400 years "white men invasion" and indigene/aboriginal folk
  treatment:
  reformation of the confederation estates ownership : the souveranity/authority back to the
  aboriginal folk
  probably your actual "home" is also only "from eternal-juridical view " leased

  Re-Patriation ? Do you really think that you and all the other emigrants are wellcomed on the
  cruiser-ship "EUROPA"  ?   

Quote from: Sergh on June 12, 2014, 04:36:39 AM
You can call these people terrorists?
They do not hide as civilians.
They sit in the trenches and wear military uniforms.
They do not do explosions in the cities during the marathon.
They do not capture the cinemas.
They fight against the invaders.
Correct to call them rebels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jITMsEU_984#t=38

They are terrorists because they are civilians actively using military equipment (weaponry).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_terrorism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_pro-Russian_conflict_in_Ukraine

Imagine now, that something like that happens in Russia, not in Ukraine... Putin's reaction?...

LancaIV, here is the spot where our discussion starts:

http://www.overunity.com/8010/i-see-an-economic-diasater-coming/msg405527/#msg405527

Quote from: Qwert on June 12, 2014, 09:35:14 AM
They are terrorists because they are civilians actively using military equipment (weaponry).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_terrorism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_pro-Russian_conflict_in_Ukraine

Imagine now, that something like that happens in Russia, not in Ukraine... Putin's reaction?...

And then who the rebels? Do you think that the rebels nowhere fundamentally impossible?
Or rebels is only possible where it is favorable for the U.S.?

Crimea was donated to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic from first secretary of the CPSU Khrushchev 50 years ago.
Now there is no longer a Soviet Union and the Communist Party (CPSU). 

In Crimea, the locals are always talking in Russian and perceived it as Russian .