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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: MileHigh on June 25, 2014, 06:39:23 PM
All:

It's the familiar pattern repeating itself.  That's why I posted my technical stuff, in the hope that someone is helped or is simply motivated to start doing some real investigations and start asking the right questions. Instead, people on the official forum talk about the build material selection and a myriad of other secondary things.  Sure, they are valid questions but the most important questions are about getting the thing running as claimed, and making measurements and sharing data.  That's why I discussed waveforms and the sensor for detecting the position of the rotor and and other relevant issues.  It always seems to fall on deaf ears.

I "can't stand" the notion of "people that want to make a difference" and "people that are outside the regimented and programmed system that controls us" acting like the most passive drones that have adapted to the New Order.  Where is their spirit?  Where is their individuality?  How come it's only the party line?  It's like the "rebels" have dissolved into mush, and now they just don't think and take orders instead, or they take "self orders."  It borders on a cult, it's almost like a form of Milgram experiment where people reject the authority of the "powers that be, the 'enslavers'" and then submit to the authority of the "New Leaders" and simply take their explicit or implicit marching orders.  The "administered shock" is when the "pacified rebels" encourage others to join or make a donation using the FTW storyline.

What's the net result of this "rebel to mush-brain" phenomenon?   The net result is that there is no discussion or debate at all about wanting proof of over unity.  The net result is that there is no discussion or debate at all about the fact that the two sets of data released by FTW show efficiencies of less than 50%.  The net result is that there is no discussion or debate at all about the fact that a high "VARS number" (the primary LC resonator) will not transfer into a continuous over unity power output.  It's nuts.

I don't have a solution.  In a way I am shocked that people can seemingly lose their individuality and "join the Be-Do hive" to join the "QEGorg Collective."

For those in the QEG realm that still have some working sponge material and you are siting on the fence my advice to you is this:  Don't spend a single red cent and instead simply wait.  Contribute if you want in other ways but not one red cent until you see convincing proof it actually works.  Keep in mind that FTW have made several claims of over unity over the past two months worth of testing and they are all lies.

MileHigh

They are indeed astounding liars, aren't they. I've just been going over this page:
http://pesn.com/2014/05/31/9502505_33-x-overunity_QEG_claimed/

QuoteThis is THE GROUND BREAKING POST that we are hoping to make viral. It shows 33 times over unity in the Morocco QEG core. This has been done through a specially made video and a professional report. It should be noted that the equipment needed to take these measurements that many has been demanding cost $75,000 and was donated to the QEG project.  We had to wait for this in order to be able to provide these figures freely to the people.

We could not complete the project to show self looping in Morocco because we ran out of time and money.  Morocco  being an underdeveloped country  made accomplishing simple engineering tasks very costly and time consuming as most of the parts we needed we could not find in the country.  The last phase of QEG development is simple in comparison to what we have already accomplished. We need to build a transverter (which is already being built) to convert and withdraw the enormous power that is already in the core. We will be completing this phase in the UK at a private build and will open source the results. There are many QEG teams around the world that are co-developing this with us, all of them will be utilizing these results to bring QEG's to their communities.

Please help us spread this important news by sharing it on your blog. To the best of our knowledge, nothing like this has ever been done in this manner before. The magnitude of what is occurring here is unprecedented. Free energy, opensourced, co-developed, well publicized, over unity demonstrated with professional equipment with a top of the line industry standard report. All of it crowd-funded by the people with a complete detailed and truly transparent report of expenditures.

It's a real hoot to read the comments, to see where MileHigh's excellent analyses have been DELETED and replaced by Stuart's silly rants... but posts by other people making outrageous and paranoid _false claims_ are allowed to stand without editing, or rather CENSORING.

But let's just look at the "75,000 dollars" worth of test equipment they claim is necessary to show 33x overunity. Is there no ability to reason left amongst these fakers and their hangers-on?

Give me a system.... ANY SYSTEM... that actually really genuinely produces 33x OU... or even THREE TIMES OU... and I guarantee, absolutely, that I will be able to demonstrate that fact for a lot less than 75,000 dollars in test equipment.

But let's look at the actual workbench test equipment that they are using. How do you get 75 thousand dollars? The most expensive item is the oscilloscope and I've already shown that the exact same model is available on the used market for well under 5 thousand dollars and can be had in fully refurbished condition complete with current NIST-traceable calibration for under 15 thousand dollars. The next most expensive bit of kit is likely the High-Voltage Scope Probe which costs, brand new, about 2 thousand dollars.

So I want to see  "a complete detailed and truly transparent report of expenditures" detailing the actual costs paid for the:

Tektronix Oscilloscope (which I believe was _loaned_ to the QEGers, not purchased by them)
High-Voltage Probe Set
Stangenes Current Transformer
Fluke DMM
Kill-a-Watt mains supply wattmeter
Assorted Variacs, power supplies, etc.
Banks of light bulbs, whatever.

Seventy-five thousand dollars worth of kit. NO F****ING WAY.
33x Overunity.... another blatant and outrageous lie.

"Content removed" in MileHigh's posts: Censorship of the kind typical of fascists the world over.

Measurements provided freely to the people..... I laugh at the "measurements". I give better daily progress reports on frigging JOULE THIEFS than these people do on their seventyfive thousand dollars of test equipment and their using of it to make their daily tests.

Speaking of the daily activity of the QEG building teams around the world.... what do you suppose a typical day looks like for James Robitaille right now? Just what does he actually DO in the "lab" all day long? Run the machine until the rotor phase-locks and the light bulbs come on? Then everybody goes to lunch? Then in the afternoon... do it again?

Whheeeee! Resonance!......


TinselKoala

The "Be-Do Com" YT videos concerning the QEG of course have "comments disabled". This kind of pre-censorship is also typical of these scammers. But they forgot to disable comments on the channel itself (easy to do since nobody looks at these very much, YT has made them hard to find.)

So I left this comment there, just now. Let's see if it lasts.

QuoteIt's very clever of you to disable comments on the QEG videos you post. This prevents any discussion.... since you've probably noticed that comments, when they are allowed, are overwhelmingly negative.

Your forum is a joke, too.... moribund and full of sycophants and people who are so ignorant of their topic that they cannot even read or interpret the "open source" plans.

You'd think there would be daily progress reports from all the different teams happily building away and obtaining Resonance.... but that's where it stops.

Can you explain the claim of "75 thousand dollars" worth of equipment being necessary to show the "33x Overunity" that has been claimed? Of course you cannot, since it's another blatant lie. The scope can be purchased for less than 5 thousand dollars, for example.

"Free energy, opensourced, co-developed, well publicized, over unity demonstrated with professional equipment with a top of the line industry standard report. All of it crowd-funded by the people with a complete detailed and truly transparent report of expenditures."

http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/05/30/major-breakthrough-in-free-energy-overunity-demonstrated-in-the-qeg/

Feel free to post that complete detailed and truly transparent report of expenditures... as soon as you have fabricated it.


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsFAF1_8B5cZ7YhpcjFFNfA/discussion


TinselKoala

Come, let us research and calculate together.

QuoteFTW has freely created this video with the QEG engineering artist James Robitaille exemplifying how overunity is measured in the QEG. The cost of the equipment needed to test the power in the QEG core and provide these measurements and the accompanying report would be nearly $75,000, and was lovingly lent to the project so that we could show these measurements freely to the people. We would like to thank our anonymous equipment donors, without whom the development and presentation of these measurements would not be possible. We would also ask that all of those in the free energy movement that place demands of proof and measurements on a volunteer humanitarian project please consider and help supply the cost associated with meeting these demands.

http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/05/30/major-breakthrough-in-free-energy-overunity-demonstrated-in-the-qeg/

Equipment referred to is listed here:

https://hopegirl2012.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/morocco-qeg-june-2014-test-and-measurement-report-v2-011.pdf
Page 5.

Prices of all that equipment gathered from half an hour's web searching:

Tektronix P6015 1000x HV Probe $1980.00

Stangenes 0.5-0.1W Current Transformer Probe
Models range from 200 to 500 dollars

Fluke 187 TRMS DMM
Originally sold for $419.95, now replaced by Fluke 287 for $449.95

Tektronix TDS3054 Oscilloscope
Refurbished with calibration, $12,757.50

Maplins Plug-in Energy Saving Monitor
about $17.00

Fluke i30S Current Probe
about $600.00

Total cost $16,304. Add in misc. apparatus, shipping and taxes and call it a round $20,000 for all the test equipment listed in the official QEG report of the Morocco "33x" experience.

Let's see.... 75,000/20,000 = a COP of 3.75! This is as close to "overunity" as the QEGgers will ever get.




TinselKoala

Quote from: isim on June 27, 2014, 04:37:29 PM
All
Do you know this  QEG simulation:

http://www.allmystery.de/themen/gw110428-17

Here an output of Pspice:
http://static.allmystery.de/upics/83e7c2_QEG_Sim_2014-06-25_Overlay.jpg
@+
I'd call that a pretty good fit!

So another claim of the QEGgers is proven to be a lie: this "resonance" effect in variable reluctance motors/generators is ordinary, is expected, has been fully described in the literature for many years, and is precisely repeatable in simulations.

And it clearly has nothing whatsoever to do with "overunity" performance. You cannot run a motor -- or a household -- on pretty colored squiggly lines of VARs no  matter how large the numbers are when you multiply them all together.