Hi Ken,

I understand your explanation very well! But all you try to explain here using the written words of well established terms and mental conventions is hard to understand by someone with deep rooted scientific education using a scientific language.

Yes indeed, all mater is magnetic in esence, is radiating centrifugal and divergent from the dielectric inertial plane, is ether expanding centrifugaly and returning centripetaly to its origin, to the fulcrum of everything. But all these are available not in the nowaday sense of the word magnetism.

I see you avoid to use the word ether in many of your answers! You choosed to use the word dielectric instead of ether! I suppose this is because you want to keep the language in "electrical terms" field as does Dollard!. When there exists only helical dynamics, or CW and CCW in human relative interpretation, there would allways be only voidance and countervoidance of the intercations of these helical dynamics.

Thanks,
SaDAng

Quote from: sadang on August 18, 2014, 10:50:03 AM
Hi Ken,

I understand your explanation very well! But all you try to explain here using the written words of well established terms and mental conventions is hard to understand by someone with deep rooted scientific education using a scientific language.

Yes indeed, all mater is magnetic in esence, is radiating centrifugal and divergent from the dielectric inertial plane, is ether expanding centrifugaly and returning centripetaly to its origin, to the fulcrum of everything. But all these are available not in the nowaday sense of the word magnetism.

I see you avoid to use the word ether in many of your answers! You choosed to use the word dielectric instead of ether! I suppose this is because you want to keep the language in "electrical terms" field as does Dollard!. When there exists only helical dynamics, or CW and CCW in human relative interpretation, there would allways be only voidance and countervoidance of the intercations of these helical dynamics.

I use Ether ALL the time, maybe not so much here, but not by intent,  Everything is the Ether, all 4 forces are just Ether modalities.


No, I in no way avoid the Ether, nor ever intend to avoid mention of same.


"This medium of propagation, the Ether must exist. This medium must be a prominent thought in our investigations." Treatise on
Electricity and Magnetism – J.C. Maxwell


"The word Ether has extremely negative connotations in theoretical physics only because its past association with opposition to
relativity. This is unfortunate because stripped of these connotations, it nicely captures the way most physicists actually thin about the
vacuum. The modern concept of vacuum space confirmed by every experiment is a relativistic Ether. But we do not call it this because
Ether is a taboo term." - Robert B. Laughlin




Before he lost his mind even the idiot Einstein--------

"When the electric current comes into being, it immediately sets the surrounding Ether into some kind of instantaneous motion, the
nature of which has still not been exactly determined. In spite of the continuation of the cause of this motion, namely the electric
current, the motion ceases, but the Ether remains in a potential state and produces a magnetic field. That the magnetic field is a
potential state [of the Ether] is shown by the [existence of a] permanent magnet, since the principle of conservation of energy excludes
the possibility of a state of motion in this case. The motion of the Ether, which is caused by an electric current, will continue until the
acting [electro-] motive forces are compensated by the equivalent passive forces which arise from the deformation caused by the
motion of the Ether itself." –("Concerning the Investigation of the State of Ether in Magnetic Fields" by Albert Einstein)

Particles don't exist because there are stable dielectric events ? ITS THE SAME DAM THING !!!!! DONT WORM YOUR WAY ROUND IT !!! Its not a ((matter )) what it is its how we count the energy that is held by it ... With your language a coulomb of electrons is not a number and can not be counted and there for all levels of energy are of the same sum not bigger than 1 dielectric event !

You cant do maths with that !!! Let say there are 2.5678 coulombs  x 1 volt the answer is 2.5678 watts and that is fundamental in electrical engineering you need the numbers to designee the circuit
or machine ect ........ do u finally see the importance of separating out the energy as particles If not try and designee something with your rules you cant so you have to use particles to make a finite calculation ... Just by the using different types and amounts of atoms we make the bonds for metals that are used in construction ! With your formula you would never know the correct quantity and in fact there would not be a name for each atom no periodic table just a silly word that is not proven to be of any use ...

Particles rule son !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the periodic law stands as final or everything you will ever make is just jelly and the whole universe would not exist ! You need particles .............................................................................. or you will become DR nincompoop the 1ST and I do hope the last ........................................................................................



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Quote from: sadang on August 18, 2014, 06:54:46 AM
I understand him very well and also you and others who are deeply rooted in official magnetism. I learned form life that the so called science is science only seen from the outside, but when you go deeper into it, science is nothing but ambiguity, assumptions, constants, matches and the like. Ken is not the first to touch the subject of magnetism in a way unsupported by the current scientific dogma, that I studied over time. There were others before him, each with his version suitable to their respective time understandings. But Ken bases his theory and experiments on the existence of the ether, and that's what makes a clown for most, but for me it is not so at all! Because I know from my own experience that the ether exists, but so far from how was it thought by Einstein, Michelson, Morley and others who tried to prove or dismiss it. You know ... there is an alternative science, the one of the founders of modern science elements (or even the ancient science, terms and concepts), which founders thought totally different than we understand today the well established scientific terms and concepts. It's just a way to shape the reality! And what I think you must surely understand waht I want to say, even if you do not agree with that, if you really maintain your clain that "My experimental evidence is in lab reports that I did more than 30 years ago!".

You know, in an emptied space intentionally, it's easy to come and fill it with any laws, rules, postulates, assumptions, descriptions, dark matter, dark energy, zero point energy, quarks, bosons, and so on. Why so and not otherwise? That, again, is very simple to understand! You just have to lean on unwritten science, on what thought of its founders. On their original writings and their way to look and understand the world, the foundations on which they based their research! How many scientists of the present world have made ​​this? They do not even questioning it! As if Einstein, Lorentz, Maxwell, and others had been some holy immaculate to which even with the thought should not think! The science is just like religion! Ie dogma!

I do not want to create a sterile polemics here on this topic, but I want to see open minds to new theoretical foundations, not minds entrenched in current scientific dogma and its way to shape the reality, who do not even realize that revolve in a circle. And I know what I mean when I say that science today is the same as religion and is just a dogma and nothing more!

SaDAng

SaDAng:

When you argue that there are "multiple truths and interpretations" for magnetism you make a big fail.  It's simply not true but if you want to delude yourself into believing this then that's your problem.  Other people have the right to know that some people, people like Kenny, are spouting nonsense.  In Kenny's case it seems to be tied into some psychological problems that he has because you can clearly see that he is not able to behave normally on a chat board.

Man and the science and knowledge that has been developed over the centuries represent a valuable resource that should be treated with respect.  If you don't treat it with respect then we may end up going for another 1200 years without indoor plumbing again.  If Kenny could demonstrate that he knows what he is talking about and then add some new insights that would be one thing.  But Kenny clearly does not know what he is talking about so his "new insights" are nothing more than a complete and total failure to understand basic magnetism.  People like Kenny represent the encroachment of ignorance and stupidity on our society.  It's worth pointing that out because if we don't, the legions of dummies will get larger and larger and then you will be walking to the river to get your drinking water.  Just look at the legions of dummies that are building Quantum Energy Generators as a sign of how ignorant and stupid people can become.

The fact that Kenny can't explain how the neons light up and the fact that this is based on the manipulation of magnetic energy is a "smoking gun" giving you a clear message that Kenny is clueless and he is in no position to present any theories on magnetism at all.  He is a clown.  It's up to you to figure out the messages that life is sending to you.

MileHigh

Hi 93rdelement.
It is big fun to read your post.  There is such love shining from your posts.    You should really see a doctor.