Quote from: Madeo on November 22, 2014, 07:22:11 AM

That is quite a claim.  Do you have proof that supports this ?

Please start from page 146 reply 2179.  There is no need to repeat.  Watch the Head video on Milkovic 2SO carefully.

i have watched it and i do not see any evidence of this. You swing the pendulum to its extreme positions while the hammer or beam only lifts a few inches periodically. I dont even see the numbers between input vs output joules.....


pretty pictures, elaborate formulas, and claims  is NOT proof of OU. Where are the experiments and the proper measurements?

Quote from: Madeo on November 22, 2014, 08:04:22 AM
i have watched it and i do not see any evidence of this. You swing the pendulum to its extreme positions while the hammer or beam only lifts a few inches periodically. I dont even see the numbers between input vs output joules.....


pretty pictures, elaborate formulas, and claims  is NOT proof of OU. Where are the experiments and the proper measurements?

Dear Madeo,

Like many thousands (including myself for 10 years), you looked but did not see.  The most important things to observe are:

1. With the finger push around the 2.30 minute mark, each finger push lifted the 74 pound weight twice.  The movement of the fingers was around an inch.  The 74 pound weight was lifted with a total height of around or over an inch.  If the Input were the finger push and the Output were the potential energy of the lifted weight, Output was easily seen to be greater than Input. 

2.  The amplitude of the pendulum did not decrease.  If energy were transferred from the pendulum system to lift the Weight, the amplitude MUST decrease.  If the amplitude does not decrease, energy must come from elsewhere.  The explanation from the LEE-TSEUNG lead out energy theory is that gravitational energy is brought in.

3.  The fact that gravitational energy can be brought in by the Milkovic 2SO has extremely important implications.  If gravitational energy can be brought in continuously (by any method), magnetic or electromagnetic energy must be able to be brought in similarly.....

4.  Some experimenters have done measurements but did not use the lead out energy theory to explain the findings.  They used more mathematics to confuse themselves and others.

5.  We now have the Chan Wheel which replaces the pendulum with an unbalanced wheel.  Much more scientific measurements can and will be taken.  OU can be confirmed with absolute certainly.

I expect the oil interests and the Military of USA and China will try to discredit the lead out energy theory and any OU device as much as possible.  They tried that with the 225 HP Pulse Motor in 2006.  They will try again this time.  However, we have many working OU devices in Taiwan and Hong Kong now.  The WITTS and QEG are also OU devices.  Over 60 QEGs have shown resonance.  It is a matter of time that they will show OU.  WITTS has already shown OU and self loop.

Quote from: Madeo on November 22, 2014, 08:04:22 AM
i have watched it and i do not see any evidence of this. You swing the pendulum to its extreme positions while the hammer or beam only lifts a few inches periodically. I dont even see the numbers between input vs output joules.....


pretty pictures, elaborate formulas, and claims  is NOT proof of OU. Where are the experiments and the proper measurements?

There aren't any.
Ltseung888  doesn't even have the guts to admit that with all this "lead-out" nonsense, he is still "leading out" his own electricity from the wall sockets, just like all the other "inventors" he touts. Not a single one of them has ever made a Joule of extra energy over what it takes to run their devices.

Don't forget that this is the same person who made bad measurements using a cheap, non-calibratable oscilloscope to claim "overunity" from simple Joule Thief circuits, claimed to send out many circuit boards to various people and organizations, and then never followed up after his claims were soundly proven wrong. How much did all that nonsense cost, I wonder?

He also claims that money is no problem and that he can easily donate 100000 dollars to WITTS to purchase a self-running QEG from Sir Timothy Thrapp... but he has not done this and will never do it... because he cannot, and he knows it.

Quote from: ltseung888 on November 22, 2014, 03:18:27 PM

Dear Madeo,

Like many thousands (including myself for 10 years), you looked but did not see.  The most important things to observe are:

1. With the finger push around the 2.30 minute mark, each finger push lifted the 74 pound weight twice.  The movement of the fingers was around an inch.  The 74 pound weight was lifted with a total height of around or over an inch.  If the Input were the finger push and the Output were the potential energy of the lifted weight, Output was easily seen to be greater than Input. 

2.  The amplitude of the pendulum did not decrease.  If energy were transferred from the pendulum system to lift the Weight, the amplitude MUST decrease.  If the amplitude does not decrease, energy must come from elsewhere.  The explanation from the LEE-TSEUNG lead out energy theory is that gravitational energy is brought in.

3.  The fact that gravitational energy can be brought in by the Milkovic 2SO has extremely important implications.  If gravitational energy can be brought in continuously (by any method), magnetic or electromagnetic energy must be able to be brought in similarly.....

4.  Some experimenters have done measurements but did not use the lead out energy theory to explain the findings.  They used more mathematics to confuse themselves and others.

5.  We now have the Chan Wheel which replaces the pendulum with an unbalanced wheel.  Much more scientific measurements can and will be taken.  OU can be confirmed with absolute certainly.

I expect the oil interests and the Military of USA and China will try to discredit the lead out energy theory and any OU device as much as possible.  They tried that with the 225 HP Pulse Motor in 2006.  They will try again this time.  However, we have many working OU devices in Taiwan and Hong Kong now.  The WITTS and QEG are also OU devices.  Over 60 QEGs have shown resonance.  It is a matter of time that they will show OU.  WITTS has already shown OU and self loop.

You are either seriously deluded, or a plain and simple lying fraudster, or perhaps both.

FOR THE SIXTH TIME AT LEAST.... WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR ELECTRICITY?  Admit it, you get it from the wall socket just like the "inventors" of the "many working OU devices" that you claim, but never show evidence for.