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Bob Boyce TPU thread

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Bruce_TPU

#100
August 11, 2007, 11:47:02 AM
Hi Bob,

Thank you very much for the diagram.  We are excited to see the primaries added.  Also, thank you for the testing of the aforementioned.  I look forward to those results.

@ All
Eldarion tested just one primary on our air core.  Open ended.  Eldarion says, "Something interesting is that this is proof that we can get a offset signal directly out of the toroid--i.e. a signal that is non-symmetric on the vertical axis."

I will ask Eldarion to post the scope shot and details.   ;D  Bob will be the only one not surprised!  LOL  I will just tease, that it produced a little juice!

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

eldarion

#101
August 11, 2007, 01:16:07 PM
Quote from: btentzer on August 11, 2007, 11:47:02 AM@ All
Eldarion tested just one primary on our air core.  Open ended.  Eldarion says, "Something interesting is that this is proof that we can get a offset signal directly out of the toroid--i.e. a signal that is non-symmetric on the vertical axis."

I will ask Eldarion to post the scope shot and details.   ;D  Bob will be the only one not surprised!  LOL  I will just tease, that it produced a little juice!

OK, here you go! :)

I was using a small scavenged iron core toroid from a computer power supply.  The windings all overlap, so I can't do much with it at all other than single phase tests like this.  The air core toroid I wound has primary lengths that are too short and too little coupling, as far as I know.  EDIT: You can see the toroid in the background of the middle picture.

I have attached a schematic of the apparatus, as well as the original pictures that I sent to Bruce.
EDIT2: The scope settings are 5V/div vertical, and 200ns/div horizontal.

And here is my original message:
Quote from: eldarion
Bruce,

I have completed construction of the 20ns driver board--attached are a
couple of pics.

Something interesting (and really the reason I am writing you) is that this
is proof that we can get a offset signal directly out of the toroid--i.e. a
signal that is non-symmetric on the vertical axis.
The scope shot was taken with only one primary connected to the driver
board, and the output of the toroid was connected across a 22 ohm resistor.
The scope leads were placed across that resistor.
No DC bias or anything interesting was applied.  The driver board consumed
about .138W of power at 500KHz (with a 20ns pulse width), and those peaks in
the scope shot are about 0.4 watts, if my scope is measuring them correctly!
:-)

I would say this method shows some promise.  And the best part is, if we're
wrong, then all I have to do is plug the other board back in! :-)

I'm pretty confident we will get some interesting results once a properly wound core is connected to this thing! ;D
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Jdo300

#102
August 11, 2007, 03:53:39 PM
Hi Bob,

Thanks for the updates to the circuit board. I personally am very interested in driving the primaries with one-wire input (since I have done that before with a function generator for a transformer and it works great). I have some questions for you:

1. As for the diagram, do you have any rough recommendations for the circuit component values?

2. I took a look at the driver chips you mentioned. I am going to order some samples myself. They are definitely superior to the ones I am using since they can charge a twice the capacitance mine can in the same time. How would you connect the open ended coil to this? Just tie one lead to the output pin?

@ Eldarion,

Great circuit setup! I was very interested to see that you had one of the primary coil left hanging open! If I get a chance, I'm going to try that out myself. I'm going to be testing two TPU pulsing circuits today to see if anything interesting happens. I'll post a schematic for you all later if I get anything worth looking at.

God Bless,
Jason O

Jdo300

#103
August 11, 2007, 03:54:27 PM
Oh by the way, I'll also be on Skype today (Jdo300) if anyone would like to chat/voice chat.

God Bless,
Jason O

Bob Boyce

#104
August 11, 2007, 04:29:35 PM
Quote from: Earl on August 11, 2007, 11:29:51 AM
Hi Bob,

thanks for your reply.  What you are saying is that not only can three primaries serve in a catalytic action each primary with a wire hanging in the air, connected to nothing, but that the secondary can output appreciable power with one lead hanging in the air, connected to nothing.

Did I understand this correctly?

Regards, Earl

When you have DC bias potential applied to that secondary, it is no longer connected to nothing. It is coupled to the surrounding environment. The higher the bias potential, the larger the bubble of environment it is coupled to. I am hoping that you understand.

Bob
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