Quote from: minnie on March 22, 2015, 06:00:40 PM


    Well now I know what dielectricity is. Kenny doesn't think there are electrons so how
does he get round a relatively simple experiment such as Millicans oil drop experiment
which not only establishes the charge of the non existent electron but also it's mass?
              John.

Isn't he the first one to establish a value for E?  How can that be if they do not exist?

How can we have scanning electron microscopes if there are no electrons?  I mean, we do have them, I have seen them. (electron microscopes not the electrons)

How can Kenny explain these inconsistencies?  Wait, let me guess, he will explain them by cussing us all out once again.

Bill

John, dielectricity has nothing to do with electrons more than with what wrongly sustained Bohr in 1911 when he added Thomson's electrons to Rutherford's nucleated atom. The electrons and Rutherford-Bohr atom is obsolete from more than 50 years, but it is still taught in schools. For Milikan and his experiments would be great to read the journal of that experiments, or his debate with Ehrenhaft!

As for the electrons they don't even exists as defined by current science, but rather as transient mass-less entities, that do not even belong to the atom. These aspects are hard to understand and accept in the current scientific paradigm of empty space, so this is the reason I ask everyone to study for himself the bases of the current existing Laws in the science. They are all just a matter of interpretation. Wrong premises, wrong development, wrong interpretation, results accordingly! But repeated day by day they become immutable truth! Immutable truth that shape the current world accordingly. Exactly as in economy: the label make the product, not the product itself!

Here you go:

The electron rest mass (symbol: me) is the mass of a stationary electron. It is one of the fundamental constants of physics, and is also very important in chemistry because of its relation to the Avogadro constant. It has a value of about 9.11×10−31 kilograms or about 5.486×10−4 atomic mass units, equivalent to an energy of about 8.19×10−14 joules or about 0.511 megaelectronvolts.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_rest_mass

Yes one mole of sodium ions(Na+) will weigh slightly less than one mole sodium (Na)

QuoteI been following this thread and have to say that many of Mr Wheeler theories in his book goes parallel to what Tesla , W. Russell and V. Shrauberger wrote in their books. This is the first time I actually have it explained in a way that goes more with modern science. I have not finished his book but I can say that here he presents a free book, which have a lot of work and detail and have been considerably worked on. I wonder how many people in this forum have free books written in ANY theory or experiment that actually want to share. Just for the work on it and making it freely available I have to give him credit for his time and work. For having theory that is consonant with the work of some of the greatest inventors that actually discovered something and PROVED their discoveries in their time I have to give even more credit. Is his theory perfect? I still dont know, but he seems to be getting results. From some other people here all I see is questioning , witch hunting, a lot of babble, maybe envy??? I do understand that our minds are very hard to change. It is human nature. But since I dont claim I know anything more than anyone , I think I can enjoy this book more than most , coming from a real neutral point and building up on it. It is funny to note that both Tesla , Russell and Schrauberger did invent machinery that actually worked based on their theories, and that all the scientific world at their time either ignored, tried to ridicule, or plain tried to make them dissapear from the science and history books and from earth itself. Every time I see someone trying to explain magnetism , gravity , or trying to go some other way that is not what mainstream science want everyone to believe I see all this attacks coming. People want demostrations inmediately , and a way to reproduce the experiments, but all with their own agenda of stealing of somehow making money.

If we could understand exactly magnetism and specially gravity, and a cheap way to control it, all the monopolies around us would collapse. Getting endless energy from the enviroment as Tesla PROVED , or using that energy to grow bigger natural crops(without GMO or genetic manipulation) like Scharauberger PROVED, or being able to transform and create matter and change one element into another without fusion like Schrauberger did and Russell suggested,.. all this beautiful things dont go with the mediocre way we humans think or with our constant greed. Royal Rife actually created and tested the cure for cancer and most virus and he was drove into bankruptcy and eventually jail, the doctors using his machinery intimidated, even as 2 of them continued to secretly heal people for 22 years.

I was expecting from the people who know a lot here  to be more open about this kind of technology, and try maybe to understand, experiment and duplicate themselves? I know that is what a real scientific would do.

Well Mr Wheeler I sent you a PM, thanks for your book and your effort on bringing it forward. It is appreciated.

Very well said guy. Actually everyone learns from results. 90% of the people are already programed to not believe anything because it has to do with evolution and part GREED (stranger danger).

When someone is introduced to a new idea, their unconscious mind holds back not matter if the idea is 100% true. They hold back the 100% ideas because they want to be part of the heard. They want to belong to the massed and not try to stand out. Psychological studies have been done about this all over the place. Even if someone knows that that is wrong to do, they will always follow the masses and justify it because they don't want to get singled out.

Then you have those people that are ahead of their time. There are some minds right now that are ahead of the year 2015 masses. They are 10-20 years ahead but they struggle to convince the lagging brains. Because the lagging brains CANNOT comprehend the brains that are "ahead of time".

Just like all states have governors and countries have presidents, it all boils down to the "leader". And the leader gets chosen by the masses no matter if they cause them harm or good. = Hitler! The masses choose him....he did not appoint himself the status!

TA, has too much time on his hands that he is figuring out stuff that will eventually get figured out. So I don't find his stuff far fetched at all and should not be. In a wold where mostly everyone is corrupted by greed, he is giving it out for free. And I'm most certain some smarter person than this forum has already made his views to benefit the world and other corrupt minds to take advantage of the low hanging fruit.

It should have been cleared a longgg time ago that the world is electric. = The only thing that we can perceive is the only thing that we can not perceive. = a balance of perception.

Don't dogs have a greater sense of smell? 

Don't bats have a greater sense of hearing?

Don't owls have a greater sense of seeing in the dark? (bigger eyes to gather the light, eagles have little eyes but adapt to handle the bright light...still greater than a humans eye by 10-100X)

Those humans cannot understand but only imagine about.

Too many things to learn in soo little time. The nay sayers r just stuck in a loop forum! lol

Show me this! prove to me this! Show me the evidence. Which is it just 100% sure that they are seeking answers and not 100% convinced that they know EVERYTHING! They are like babies, daddy/mommy, why is this and that!