Quote from: sadang on March 23, 2015, 09:13:52 AM
Because of people like me

FTFY

Another reason for the concept of the ether to be so hated by the standard community is because in its roots it may also be interpreted as coming from counterspace and  a higher conscience/spirit  and may imply that there is a Creator or intelligent design ,which would smash away a lot of other theories including evolution, not mentioning that science is mostly atheistic in view and dont want to have nothing to do with anything that is not purely materialistic. Vortex and system self organization is very difficult to represent mathematically which makes them not able to control or predict what exactly will happen or how to properly explain it. Beside all that, Tesla found how to practically use it in ways that still to this day most people dont understand and it is the slap in the face of "modern " science. If we could all reproduce Tesla's work we could harness energy from our enviroment freely and endlessly. Now tell that to our multitrillion all controlling landlords here in corporate America and watch what happens. The patent office was not created to protect the individual but to control it and make sure that whatever technology endangers the status quo and our masters ,be forever banned in the name of "national security", which nowadays could be practically anything. Our rat cage was designed with a definitive amount of freedom so you can buy ,sell, roam "free" or at least believe that you are free. As long as this happens we are all happy rats , and the master just keep the maze going. Now try to stretch that boundaries to real freedom and escape from the cage and you will get a rude awakening.

Quote from: Raz on March 23, 2015, 03:43:47 PM
Another reason for the concept of the ether to be so hated by the standard community is because in its roots it may also be interpreted as coming from counterspace and  a higher conscience/spirit  and may imply that there is a Creator or intelligent design ,which would smash away a lot of other theories including evolution, not mentioning that science is mostly atheistic in view and dont want to have nothing to do with anything that is not purely materialistic. Vortex and system self organization is very difficult to represent mathematically which makes them not able to control or predict what exactly will happen or how to properly explain it. Beside all that, Tesla found how to practically use it in ways that still to this day most people dont understand and it is the slap in the face of "modern " science. If we could all reproduce Tesla's work we could harness energy from our enviroment freely and endlessly. Now tell that to our multitrillion all controlling landlords here in corporate America and watch what happens. The patent office was not created to protect the individual but to control it and make sure that whatever technology endangers the status quo and our masters ,be forever banned in the name of "national security", which nowadays could be practically anything. Our rat cage was designed with a definitive amount of freedom so you can buy ,sell, roam "free" or at least believe that you are free. As long as this happens we are all happy rats , and the master just keep the maze going. Now try to stretch that boundaries to real freedom and escape from the cage and you will get a rude awakening.

There are a lot of statements in your posting that I take issue with.  Among them are simplistic cliches that are not true.

The most relevant one to this forum is the classic "Cult of Tesla" statement, "If we could all reproduce Tesla's work we could harness energy from our enviroment freely and endlessly."

I have read many statements on this forum from people that said that they read all of Tesla's work and they said that Tesla never made any claims about free energy.  Your statement is false and no I don't believe that any alleged Tesla free energy systems were confiscated by the FBI.

In my opinion you are just repeating a myth that has been created by people that want to sell books and kits and who knows how many other things.  That's the reason the people promoting the fake Quantum Energy Generator cited two Tesla patents that had absolutely nothing to do with the QEG as shown in the schematics.

Right now Science has made tests to look for ether and found none.  Science also can fully explain the EM phenomena that we observe without relying on an ether model.

The concept of ether is just a "19th century 'placemat'" that was put there in an attempt to explain things that were not understood at the time.  Now that we understand things, the placemat has been removed and replaced with real knowledge - the truth.

Although I do thank the ether-freaks here for really rounding out the list of refuted ideas that people still believe.

Are there some flat-earthers here too?

Quote from: sarkeizen on March 23, 2015, 08:54:02 PM
Although I do thank the ether-freaks here for really rounding out the list of refuted ideas that people still believe.

Are there some flat-earthers here too?

Probably.  The ones that think we never went to the moon think all of those round earth photos were faked.

Bill