Quote from: MileHigh on March 23, 2015, 08:47:14 PM
There are a lot of statements in your posting that I take issue with.  Among them are simplistic cliches that are not true.

The most relevant one to this forum is the classic "Cult of Tesla" statement, "If we could all reproduce Tesla's work we could harness energy from our enviroment freely and endlessly."

I have read many statements on this forum from people that said that they read all of Tesla's work and they said that Tesla never made any claims about free energy.  Your statement is false and no I don't believe that any alleged Tesla free energy systems were confiscated by the FBI.

In my opinion you are just repeating a myth that has been created by people that want to sell books and kits and who knows how many other things.  That's the reason the people promoting the fake Quantum Energy Generator cited two Tesla patents that had absolutely nothing to do with the QEG as shown in the schematics.

Right now Science has made tests to look for ether and found none.  Science also can fully explain the EM phenomena that we observe without relying on an ether model.

The concept of ether is just a "19th century 'placemat'" that was put there in an attempt to explain things that were not understood at the time.  Now that we understand things, the placemat has been removed and replaced with real knowledge - the truth.

Milehigh: I said before that I was not going to start a cat and mouse conversation here with anyone but by all your posts it seems that you have some reading comprehension. In your own words "I have read many statements on this forum from people that said that they read all of Tesla's work and they said that Tesla never made any claims about free energy"--

So you are quoting statements from what other people said but you have never read the books or writings of Tesla yoursef??? Wow ,.. you are a great scientific . Your scientific method of using hearsay without actually reading the books says so much about you as well as all your child like answers on this forum.

I do own and have read Tesla's books, letters and patents. if you are not able to even go online and download his own quotes you are just another loser that wants to throw dirt. I dont even know what you and some other people are doing in this post, because this website is called "Free energy-searching for free energy and discussing free energy"- Overunity. -- These 2 concepts are not backed up by "science "as you would say- so you being here is just showing how stupid you are. You should be in a applicated physics forum giving your opinions. I am not looking from the opinion of people like you and some other know it alls that think that they have all of science and physics completely figured out. You are the problem , not the solution.

I DO expect to see a lot of morons like you here, because in every forum dealing with free energy, there are legions of trolls like you ,many times big oil companies paid trolls trying to ridicule and confuse people who have the pure intentions of scientific and spiritual reasearch and to uplift the human mass. Tesla would have fools like you for breakfast as he usually did and proved you and all of them wrong. Did you notice that ? He totally and without a doubt PROVED all his theories and patents. And "modern" science to this day are having trouble understanding his concepts.

Now , I will continue sharing here with " ordinary " people and free thinkers and will continue to ignore morons ,haters and know it all's like you. You can feel free to believe whatever you want . I dont care how much education or titles you have or think that you have. Better educated morons never understood Tesla.

I did post a very interesting website about scalar waves and the vortex by a real scientist of our modern present day, that not only have proved the scalar waves exactly as Tesla did, but that also sells the books and equipment to do the same experiment if you are too lazy to fabricate it yourself. I also shared an experiment done by an engineer that proves the ether, and is repeatable,along with all the formulas of how he did it and the equipment necessary. One of them was a communications engineer from Sprint and the other teaches the subjects power electronics and alternative energy technology at the University of Applied Sciences in Furtwangen. I received no reply from you or the trolls regarding this 2 experiments and information. You been all thru this forum requesting experiments and proof, and then I suggest the means to repeat this experiments and what I got from you? --------total silence regarding them. Yep. Not a PIP of opinion from the all knowing engineers here. You can go and try to discredit in any way you want this 2 engineers but they actually did the experimenting part and got results. I can not say the same from you.

So it seems all you can do when presented with any information that contradicts your expensive college education is to call other liars(without even having read the books of Tesla yourself) and just insult and talk shit like you always do. Im sure that now you will be offended because I called you a moron.

Thanks for giving me an opportunity to once more show the type of " objective " scientist you are and how well your education have served you. Enjoy the rest of your day and this will be my first and last post directly answering you. As always to the real posters, have a great day.

Lots of drama and ad hom attacks there but let's cut to the chase.  If there were viable, workable and implementable free energy systems based on Tesla technology available today, then we would all be aware of this fact.  But we aren't, so reality trumps you, no matter how much of a "free thinker" you are.

I did not look at your links.  I will try to do that sometime later.

Better solar panels, better battery technology, and better off-grid storage technology could be the path to getting off of fossil and nuclear sources of energy.  It's like we are in the "8086" days in the realm of renewable energy.  25 years from now it will be the "i7" era and things will have changed a lot, so I am very optimistic.  That's the kind of free thinking I am interested in.

QuoteHe totally and without a doubt PROVED all his theories and patents.

LOL!

http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-1,655,113-aerial-transportation
-- a totally unworkable patent concerning a flying machine that would never fly even if built with modern technology.

Tesla claimed many times to have detected signals from intelligent life on Mars:
http://www.teslasociety.com/mars.pdf

etc, etc.

Telsa was indeed a genius and invented many of the things that make our lives more comfortable and convenient today. He was also wrong, many times, about many things. And were he around today, he'd be laughing out loud at those people who constantly invoke his name in the context of "free energy" in the way that the term is used here.

Quote from: TinselKoala on March 24, 2015, 12:50:34 AM
LOL!

http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-1,655,113-aerial-transportation
-- a totally unworkable patent concerning a flying machine that would never fly even if built with modern technology.

Tesla claimed many times to have detected signals from intelligent life on Mars:
http://www.teslasociety.com/mars.pdf

etc, etc.

The fact that you posted THAT Tesla patent as his flying machine just proves that you have absolutely no idea if what I am talking about and have never really read about Tesla. There was a period of time in which Tesla was bound by contracts and such contract would have made any of his real inventions be owned by J.P. Morgan. In that time he made many patents like that one. The real Tesla Flying Machine used his dynamic gravitation theory and would not have "wings nor airbags", (an electropulsion powered machine) and he never patented it or gave way of how to build it.He was going to give this machine to the UN but after seeing what happened with the World War, was so dissapointed that he never did. In regard to that patent, it does look like a very early version of the Bell Osprey and your modern science analisys also says that helicopters should not theoretically fly(but they do).

By the same token Schrauberger stopped cooperating about his patents and ideas when he found out that an implosion principle nuclear bomb would have more force and would have been more destructive than any nuclear bomb. Tesla ,after being show by W . Russell his discoveries told him to "put them in a vault and hide them for a thousand years",because humanity was not ready for such power. Rife stopped sharing information about his discoveries when someone suggested from the military that his invention could also be use as a mass killing bio-weapon.

Really this is getting old. People who dont really know squat about Tesla making claims by looking at the first patent they can google search. Really I don t have time for the likes of you. You are free to think as obtuse as you want. That would be your problem , not mine.

If I were to discover something like that, do you think I will share with trolls like you that demand proof and have nothing to give in exchange? Or that it would be as easy as here, take it??? LOL... you really are lame.

And still the trolls like you have not answered to the experiments I quoted about prof. Meyl and about the other experiment on the ether I posted. Im sure that whatever  gevernment or oil company  that pays your .50 cents for each troll post ,must be very proud of you. You sir have been added to the troll list.

Raz, the problem is simple. Here are different worlds! Their world and your world. And my world! And others world! Each one with its own world. The main difference between these worlds is you want a world shaped according to your own vision, they want a world shaped according to vision of others. While your world is based on exposing the knowledge for all, their world is based on imposing their knowledge to all. Any argument you will prove they will come with their arguments. And they are many! A lot! The ideal product of the current ruling system! Just keep your path and don't pay them any attention. At least not as long as they keep the same imposing and ruling arrogant mentality.

Now, please don't make their game to dilute the main theme of this topic, so try to narrow the discussion to magnetism and specially to helical magnetism.