Quote from: HopeForHumanity on August 18, 2007, 03:12:46 AM
Ring Theory,

It seems you enjoy putting down freedom, and IF you reply, I will tell you why.

OK I'm game!

Wow, a semi thought out response, good for you. Rhetorical questions do not need a question mark as they are not really meant to be questions, but to be a statement in question form. And that is the retort to your opinion that terrorists flew those planes. Again you are simple and missed that. And to make your ego feel better you went ahead and gave a response to everything just to make sure you could say in the future that you have retorted, unsuccessfully, any of my counter-points. Ok, I can do that too. A neuron is in your brain, a lepton is a sub-atomic particle, if I am demonstrating your lack of an ability to think why would I say anything about your sub-atomic particles. Again you missed the point. You are the quintessential sheople, unwilling to go against the conformity, for the only reason (from your statements) that it may cause some kind of damage. Well I have read my history books, and if the good oppose the evil what you end up with is better than the tyranny that existed prior. I don't care if you think this world is a good place, the fact is that it is not, it can be better and I don't like the idea of not striving to achieve something better, for everyone, not just me. I am in opposition of a "truth" that could not hold up in a court of law, and I have and have demonstrated reasonable doubt. You stand for a "truth" that can only be true if the laws of physics, that God created, ceased to govern the universe in those locations that day.
And the word in sentence 18 should be "then", and that shows how much of a fool you are sir.
And, I repeat myself, you lack the ability to read and comprehend, because whereas you (may or may not) have read the posts on this thread, you have not been able to refute my evidence or counterpoints. You only blither on about how none of us should question the explanation that has been given. You offer little to no evidence, and absolutely no evidence that stands in the face of tests and logic. Just because you watched some films doesn't mean anything, and the fact that responded in that manner shows me further how little of what happened you understand. Your surety has zero credibility. That is a complete sentence, it has all the needed parts. First of all, the right to free speech is still in effect, when that is taken away I will not be going to jail. If its not clear maybe you should remove your head from where it is, take a breath of fresh air, some oxygen to that one firing neuron, might help your ability to comprehend a written statement, at minimum your ability to see will be improved. I called you a little man because you are, little in mental comprehension, little in sight, and little in scope and depth. Your lack of an ability to see the point, it reminds me of a child listening to an adult conversation. The child doesn't understand what is being said and is lost because the child lacks the ability of contiguous thought that is required to keep up with the conversation. And like that child you feel the need to butt in, which is only a minor annoyance to the adults who are speaking.


Signed
Wile E Coyote
Super Genius

This is like playing with a cat with a laser pointer. Good kitty

I will now explain ring theory,

You have been subject to a system where people are forced to give to others, independece is non-existant, people rely on eachother. If a father is forced to give up his money to a child support sucking jobless women, it's socialy exceptable. Family law has conditioned America to believe freedom is fairness, that is messed up. Freedom is the ability to be independent without effecting the independence of others. Because somebody holds a job that pays more than the other that person is called unfair, or selfish. People do not understand he worked hard to become what he is. We cannot tell the difference anymore from selfishness and hardworking. We live in a society where people will force someone to be normal, and worse, force people to accept a minority. At first it will seem strange that I think it's wrong, but the keyword is force. A government that forces it's people to do anything is a dictatorship, voting or not. You have been the victim of this society, you have been forced to think that the WTC was destroyed by terrorist, before realizing that your just excepting what people say, you try to force it on the people presenting evidence of the opposite. You are taking freedom away from this thread by arguing your opinnion on to others, when the threads purpose is only geared towards presenting the alternative solution to why the WTC fell. You ignore the thread title. You could have been open to both opinnions, but instead you make it clear you believe in popular oppinion only. By the rate of evidence from both sides I am at a balance. I know you will think it's wrong for others on this thread to force their oppinion on you, but the problem is that this is what the threads about, the alternative reason. They have a right to eduacate their oppinnion on you, because it's the threads point, a movement. You do not have the right to force your oppinnion on them, because it's in agreement with the stationary popular oppinnion. If you continue to explain them what the majority of people think, it isn't a movement it's stationary, and stationary things prevent freedom. I know you will have a negative reply to what I said, but thats ok, it will take you time to understand why this post is so important for you. 

Quote from: ring_theory on August 18, 2007, 03:33:56 AM
@ H4H

"Nevermind pointing out how you just contradicted yourself through putting down others," Are you blind? not reading d3ad's posts?

"You obviosly have not seen enough darkness from the U.S government to understand why some people on this thread hate it so much." I've seen way more than my share of govt abuses! Up close and personal! I have *personally* endured at least 4 traumatic events at the hands of the govt. Not to mention the 10-15 other people i know that have also suffered and continue to suffer at the hands of the govt. plus probably 50 others that was abused due to too loose of regulation of govt related entities. I have been falsely accused on more than one occasion and once due to it convicted loosing my freedoms for 6 months by the local govt. So don't assume I don't know just how horrible the govt can be!!

With that said the govt abuse that is endured by many on a daily basis would be pale in comparison to the anarchy within a revolt against the govt.

@ALL
Don't you people understand that this is one of the things the terrorists desire?? To turn the people against their govt! To break down the ranks and authority of the govt through acts of terrorism! To break the financial structure of the govt! To make the people doubt the govt ability to protect it's people! Is the govt a perfect and just govt? NO Is the govt better than anarchy? Hell YEAH! You want the govt that has already proven to be quite abusive into a militant state against it's own people?? If so lead a revolt of any kind! see what the govt response is! See what the peoples response is! Consider what the various gangs response would be? Did you even think about that?? no govt to keep gang violence down and in a state of anarchy the gangs will take over the streets.  Frankly I'm putting the revolutionaries in the cross hairs for they would be the ones causing the militant state, and forcing the govt to go militant and in kind further restricting our already trampled liberties and freedoms! Our right to assemble would be the first to go.           

You were one of those kids who gave the bully their lunch money weren't you. It only stands to reason that if someone is brainless, then they are spineless too. You would rather watch your liberties slip away slowly, rather than do anything about it. Your a coward, a disgrace, you are not a patriot as you purport yourself to be, your complacency is the kind of behaviour that has created this mess. People died to make sure we were free, and you make their deaths worth nothing because you would allow the world to revert back to what they were fighting against. You are so shameful I have no word for it, I turn my back on you, you are not worth acknowledging your existance. How dare you concede to fear, when others did not. Benedict, traitor, weakling, sycophant, selfservant. I will not grace you with any responses, you are and will be nothing.

Quote from: d3adp00l on August 18, 2007, 03:43:33 AM
Wow, a semi thought out response, good for you. Rhetorical questions do not need a question mark as they are not really meant to be questions, but to be a statement in question form. And that is the retort to your opinion that terrorists flew those planes. Again you are simple and missed that. And to make your ego feel better you went ahead and gave a response to everything just to make sure you could say in the future that you have retorted, unsuccessfully, any of my counter-points. Ok, I can do that too. A neuron is in your brain, a lepton is a sub-atomic particle, if I am demonstrating your lack of an ability to think why would I say anything about your sub-atomic particles. Again you missed the point. You are the quintessential sheople, unwilling to go against the conformity, for the only reason (from your statements) that it may cause some kind of damage. Well I have read my history books, and if the good oppose the evil what you end up with is better than the tyranny that existed prior. I don't care if you think this world is a good place, the fact is that it is not, it can be better and I don't like the idea of not striving to achieve something better, for everyone, not just me. I am in opposition of a "truth" that could not hold up in a court of law, and I have and have demonstrated reasonable doubt. You stand for a "truth" that can only be true if the laws of physics, that God created, ceased to govern the universe in those locations that day.
And the word in sentence 18 should be "then", and that shows how much of a fool you are sir.
And, I repeat myself, you lack the ability to read and comprehend, because whereas you (may or may not) have read the posts on this thread, you have not been able to refute my evidence or counterpoints. You only blither on about how none of us should question the explanation that has been given. You offer little to no evidence, and absolutely no evidence that stands in the face of tests and logic. Just because you watched some films doesn't mean anything, and the fact that responded in that manner shows me further how little of what happened you understand. Your surety has zero credibility. That is a complete sentence, it has all the needed parts. First of all, the right to free speech is still in effect, when that is taken away I will not be going to jail. If its not clear maybe you should remove your head from where it is, take a breath of fresh air, some oxygen to that one firing neuron, might help your ability to comprehend a written statement, at minimum your ability to see will be improved. I called you a little man because you are, little in mental comprehension, little in sight, and little in scope and depth. Your lack of an ability to see the point, it reminds me of a child listening to an adult conversation. The child doesn't understand what is being said and is lost because the child lacks the ability of contiguous thought that is required to keep up with the conversation. And like that child you feel the need to butt in, which is only a minor annoyance to the adults who are speaking.


Signed
Wile E Coyote
Super Genius

This is like playing with a cat with a laser pointer. Good kitty

Ok you build the world the way you want to mister ahem super genius. LOL! The truth is that you cannot persuade me to believe we are better off by falsely accusing the govt of something they just didn't do. Present something that is real! back up your claims that the govt is at hand in this. You cannot produce facts I guarantee that! You want retort?? BRING IT!! I'll directly address every claim you have! I'll tell you right now in the end you will understand that to claim your a super genius you better well have the facts to back it! Stop with the childish ranting and name calling and lets get serious! I'm a few points shy of genius so it shouldn't be a challenge for the all mighty super genius. Just one question before we jump into the frey. If your so smart why are you wasting your time and supposed genius on this thread??