Quote from: d3adp00l on August 18, 2007, 06:36:05 PM
Think in terms of who has the money/gold and who really benefits from war. Remember and use all other war financing as a model.

Where is this leading or rather misleading?

Quote from: HopeForHumanity on August 18, 2007, 03:40:07 PM

Internationaly = Many countries wanted a war in the middle east, not just for oil, but it gave many countries a reason to export weapons, increase gas prices(Oddly North West gets it's oil from alaska, but still had drasticaly razed gas prices).

think about it for a second we have oil men in the presidency and vice presidency. 

Quote from: ring_theory on August 19, 2007, 12:55:11 AM

Quote from: HopeForHumanity on August 18, 2007, 03:40:07 PM

Internationaly = Many countries wanted a war in the middle east, not just for oil, but it gave many countries a reason to export weapons, increase gas prices(Oddly North West gets it's oil from alaska, but still had drasticaly razed gas prices).

think about it for a second we have oil men in the presidency and vice presidency. 

Dir! Dir!

Are you retarded?

I don't know what you wanted to mean by that incredibly short and pre mature post, but I had the feeling you were being sarcastic. The executive branch does not have control of the country.

If a man be in debt, then the one who he is in debt to is his master. No plan in this day and age is simple and for a single purpose hope. If I needed many to help in something that shouldn't be done, I won't allow them to know about the other, only what they needed to know to perform their part of the task, and I would reward them well for their part, if I was a man who would do such a thing. I admire their efficiency, in a certain way. With a small amount of energy many dominos fell in many direction. And that many would follow whenever called upon again. Only three things in history has given anyone power over another, money, threat of life, and allowance. Money buys the greedy who seek more of it, or wish to further their position. Threat of life either eliminates or scares one into submition. Allowance can be the only honorable way, if a man have earned the respect of another, one can submit to their honorable leadership. But allowance can also be loathsome, when someone is too weak to stand and therefore allows the stronger to dominate them. I would gladly risk my daily life to the socalled terrorism of that day to have the freedoms and warriors back that we have lost. But that was not the plan, the plan was simple in action but complex in reaction. I look for the ones who dangled the prizes in front of the pawns, and to find them we can follow the road of the pawns, what connects all who had a part in it? Lucky Larry was an instrument, the "contractors" who worked in those buildings weeks before, what company was it? There should be record of it somewhere. A contract that size means that someone should have filed preliminary notices, notices that place lien rights if the contractor is not paid. It should be public knowledge, someone must know who did the work. Was it legitimate work that was done? The fed had stored gold in those buildings, the wikipedia article states that plainly, was there any insurance claims by those who lost gold that day? Someone stopped intercepts of the plains that day who has that power? Many questions, all cloaked in secrecy, strange that media didn't report on the gold isn't it. The media itself, who knew that 7 was coming down, how did it reach the reporters, was it on the wire, or some other source, the source of the media's info would be interesting too. Energy, money, media, politics, military, contracts, debt, and control all lay at the heart of this matter.

Let those with ears hear, and those with eyes see.

Quote from: HopeForHumanity on August 19, 2007, 01:35:22 AM

Quote from: ring_theory on August 19, 2007, 12:55:11 AM

Quote from: HopeForHumanity on August 18, 2007, 03:40:07 PM

Internationaly = Many countries wanted a war in the middle east, not just for oil, but it gave many countries a reason to export weapons, increase gas prices(Oddly North West gets it's oil from alaska, but still had drasticaly razed gas prices).

think about it for a second we have oil men in the presidency and vice presidency. 

Dir! Dir!

Are you retarded?

I don't know what you wanted to mean by that incredibly short and pre mature post, but I had the feeling you were being sarcastic. The executive branch does not have control of the country.

no! I'm not retarded. There is no separation of corporation and state. in fact the corporation and state are deeply embedded together. Big oil has full control of the country. they got us by the nuts and you know it. Never have i seen the price fluctuation's like i have seen under this administration. one if they were smart could play the stock market in oil alone. price goes down between holidays and as it approaches holiday it creeps back up to over $3.00 a gallon. The administration is playing a game with oil and gasoline. Where is the truth movement about that?