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I see an economic diasater coming...

Started by the_big_m_in_ok, September 03, 2009, 01:05:30 AM

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Do you think the American economy will ever improve?

Yes, definitely
Possibly, in the long run
No, it will worsen
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joel321

^sorry I kind of see your view point now and I do believe that china is a perfect example for the rest of the continents. Their houses in their overpopulated places do not even have back yards. They are trying hard to recycle everything since they are force to do so based on the over population.

They recycle the bathwater for all the family to bather with to even wash their clothes with the same water.

https://youtu.be/TKsA10XRiac

But lets be honest, is your girlfriend Asian or do you like Asian girls more than your home town native ones? Lets be honest here?

If you mean that china is OVER POPULATED then yes I agree with you. The USA will stop making things in chine pretty soon and they will labeled "made in the USA" which means more jobs for USA folks and china will go down economically. In effect, china can't control the over population and is a perfect example what will happen for those countries that can "control" the over population.

ATOM1

ALL Canadian ??? what about the rest of us ?? I dont think you are educated son I am certain you are ignorant rude isolated and so of the mark with your slander and at least I for one will never go down that road ... You don't know me so keep your energy clean ok !
There is plenty of room on this planet and enough space for 100 billion people ! Humans occupy les than 2% of the full land mass and I don't like force control of anything. We just have to except we are growing so build some space cites and all Canadian can go and live on the moon. When you talk like that it diminishes your personality into a pointless hate bucket field with your envy. I don't see anything that you have contributed that has value. I want to see 100 billion people and they will end up either eating one another or plan and develop around the problem. I think its time for me to go to a sperm bank and make a million copies of myself just to encourage the growth rate.... To me space is infinity not a self orientated inartistic venom of poison that to many here speak.
So son lets see what you have invented and I will show you mine!

ATOM1     

allcanadian

@Joel
QuoteIf you mean that china is OVER POPULATED then yes I agree with you. The USA will stop making things in chine pretty soon and they will labeled "made in the USA" which means more jobs for USA folks and china will go down economically. In effect, china can't control the over population and is a perfect example what will happen for those countries that can "control" the over population.


I'm not sure you understand what is actually happening. China, Russia and many others have said very soon they will stop accepting payment for resources in American dollars. This will grossly devalue the U.S. dollar, the economy will collapse and the U.S. will become a third world country. China has more honor roll students than America has students and in the next few years they will be installing more solar power than the rest of the world combined.




America will most likely be the next country to default on there loans just as Greece has recently which will basically be the beginning of the end for them economically. They will most likely drag Canada down with them however we are massively resource rich with a population density ten times lower than the U.S. so there is a slight chance we might make out okay. You can't eat credit or worthless paper money my friend and very soon all that toxic debt the American's were peddling is going to come full circle and wipe them out. You can only peddle BS for so long before people call your bluff and the proverbial jig is up for them.




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joel321

QuoteI'm not sure you understand what is actually happening. China, Russia and many others have said very soon they will stop accepting payment for resources in American dollars. This will grossly devalue the U.S. dollar, the economy will collapse and the U.S. will become a third world country. China has more honor roll students than America has students and in the next few years they will be installing more solar power than the rest of the world combined.

America will most likely be the next country to default on there loans just as Greece has recently which will basically be the beginning of the end for them economically. They will most likely drag Canada down with them however we are massively resource rich with a population density ten times lower than the U.S. so there is a slight chance we might make out okay. You can't eat credit or worthless paper money my friend and very soon all that toxic debt the American's were peddling is going to come full circle and wipe them out. You can only peddle BS for so long before people call your bluff and the proverbial jig is up for them.

Yes I understand what you mean but I also understand how the USA has been influencing their cheap labor in foreing countries. IOW< the only reason china has cheap labor is because the USA is a BIG demand for the products = they mostly build for the USA demands. In effect, the only reason china has cheap labor is because of the USA demands! China makes a profit from the cheap labor USA makes profit from it too! This means that the USA's demand is what is controlling cheap china products. IF the USA finds a way to stop getting cheap labor in the USA and still make a profit, than the USA will grow even bigger! If china, Russia, and many other cut the USA off, their foreign revenue will decrease dramatically.

In the upcoming years, china will get phased out from the cheap labor because China CANNOT CONTROLL THEIR OVER POPULATION! As I stated, in some areas it is illegal to have two kids. I have never heard this in the USA in all states where the USA continent is way smaller than china!

Regarding the explanation of economics, then I can't give you a very clear definition but the evidence is there. I don't know the "formula" of how the USA works but it's doing a pretty good psychological thing around the world. Cutting out China, and other cheap labor, will only make the USA stronger. IOW< bringing the labor to the USA will make the economy grow and ONLY THE USA WILL BUY FOREIGN PRODUCTS AT a CHEAP LABOR PRICE lol. A shift of cheap labor to the USA becomes more profitable for the USA residents and for the economy! This will happen in the next couple of years!

I don't know what is your point here, do you find that China as a good example of the lack of NOT being able to control over population or that China is going to be the next world leader?

triffid

As dark as it may seem there is light and beauty in the world.I think Greece should default and go their  separate ways.Like I mentioned before in this thread the USA defaulted seven times in the past and we survived.As for the oceans we must "rewild" the earth.Give the fish stocks time to rebound from overfishing.We must change how much power we give the corporations.They exist only to help their owners avoid taxes and to insulate their owners from personal losses.Corporations must do business in a way to keep the earth alive for all humans.For all time.triffid