Jbignes5:

You are just going to have to come to terms with the fact that I am speaking truthfully and honestly about this situation.   With respect to your example, it's you that is the tethered elephant.  You can lie to the elephant and get away with it because the elephant has been conditioned to accept whatever BS that is being fed to it.  The only difference is that it's self-conditioning in your case.  You want to believe and like a kid at a Star Wars movie you suspend your disbelief and for two hours you are Luke Skywalker.

The difference between you and the kid is that after the movie is over the kid is back to normal and experiencing real life.  In your case, you are permanently in a state of suspension of disbelief, just like the poor circus elephant that can be held in place by a small chain and has been conditioned to jump through hoops.

The gross error being made by RMS would be readily apparent to an astute 12-year-old kid at a grade seven science fair that did a battery project.  Yet you, as a grown adult, hide behind your wall of suspension of disbelief.  You are just like the tethered elephant waiting to be directed where to go.

QuoteIt is funny how you made this thread MH just to stir up controversy and spread fallacies that you usually spread.

I never lie, period.  You just can't cope with the truth.  It's disappointing that apparently I was the only one that could spot the problem, although certainly there are several others that would spot it right away.  I wasn't stirring up controversy.  The implicit message to the experimenters was to hone your skills so you are not duped the next time a similar situation comes up.

MileHigh

 You are not speaking the truth. You are speaking your truth as I have shown your statement is not correct about batteries and ultra caps density, it is a fallacy and you are spreading it. no amount of nana nana booboo from you will turn this around. Albeit that you know zero about them there is credible evidence you have an agenda here and I believe you are stating what you know, which is far too little in this field. You are trying to stir controversial fallacies about this even when presented with proof you are wrong as I posted above in my second post after the first.

The article was from 2006 and it isn't even cost effective to do those kinds of caps but Mr. Smith might have found a way to safely and cost effectively produce non lethal battery like caps that can be made by anyone who knows how to make em.

Quote from: jbignes5 on December 08, 2015, 12:32:12 PM

Let me give you some context to this new kind of capacitor:


http://web.mit.edu/erc/spotlights/ultracapacitor.html


In their version they are using carbon nanotubes and the density can be equal to a battery without the downside that a battery has chemically.

Has MR. Smith found a better way to make it? Hmmm.... Time will tell.

I am afraid I kinda led Mr. Smith to this point with my suggestions about crystal batteries. But the way he is being treated was not my intention. How dare you call his intentions into some kind of plot to deceive when your own intentions are to shoot down everything that comes along and deceive others with your fallacies about capacitors not being equal to a batteries density of energy capacity. Is MIT wrong then? And why did you not know about the ultra caps and their discovery? Or did you know and intentionally mislead people by not mentioning that this technology is in fact valid?

That's all great and I can guarantee you that Professor Joel E. Schindall of the MIT Energy Initiative will not fudge his numbers when he makes measurements on his ulracapacitors that are enhanced with carbon nanotubes.  If he did make that ridiculous mistake he would get his ass booted out of MIT.

Quote from: jbignes5 on December 08, 2015, 12:52:28 PM
You are not speaking the truth. You are speaking your truth as I have shown your statement is not correct about batteries and ultra caps density, it is a fallacy and you are spreading it.

You are trying to stir controversial fallacies about this even when presented with proof you are wrong as I posted above in my second post after the first.

Go ahead and show where I am not speaking the truth.

Show me the proof that I am wrong.

Quote from: MileHigh on December 08, 2015, 12:56:40 PM
Go ahead and show where I am not speaking the truth.

Show me the proof that I am wrong.

I did show the proof by showing you that article that states that cap has the same density as a battery. Why does Mr. Smith have to do that when it is already known. Don't you think after 9 years it would have advanced beyond that density? Plus Mr. Smith is using another technique I believe that does in fact use a better storage medium but then again you ignore the proof and ask for me to prove it. You don't or won't step outside of your box and learn and thats why you have zero credibility with me and others. In fact your credibility went out the door a very long time ago. After a few thousand more posts and nothing has changed. You are the Elephant unwilling to step beyond your "Facts". Anyone can see this but you.