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A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?

Started by MileHigh, November 29, 2015, 04:51:35 AM

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MileHigh

Jbignes5:

This is the conclusion from watching the RMS clip under discussion:  He has not demonstrated that his compounds show any advantage over the compounds used in a lithium-ion battery when using the metric of energy per unit of mass.

He has not shown this yet in the clip he has a lot of swagger and makes it seem that he has demonstrated this.

And you cannot refute what I am saying.  The evidence is right there in the clip itself.

MileHigh

jbignes5




I won't stop saying what you are doing is misleading no matter what nana booboo you claim.


I am merely showing you that his video is trying to show others the joy he gets from experimenting and what he has learned. He never claims the numbers are spot on. No where in that video does he state that. In fact he is very clear they are approximations. Plus he cuts off the test at the end knowing there is more energy left in the hybrid unit.


The numbers he shows for the battery is what is written on the package and we all know how those numbers never quite reflect the reality of that battery anyways.

Yes batteries have a capacitance inherit to them. This is due to the plates of copper and aluminum being so close to one another. If they were shorted via the electrolyte then the battery would not even work period.


MileHigh

The only misleading is the claim that he has outperformed lithium-ion batteries with his compound.  It's supposed to be a measurement clip, watch it again.

You are still tied to that thin chain.  You need to wake up and break the chain.

jbignes5



All plates that are separated even by water are capacitors. A battery uses the chemicals in between those plates to separate charges and allow them to collect around the opposite charged plate. It is a capacitor no matter what you say.


Second is the plates on almost all of the li-ion batteries are made from copper and aluminum. Each material has an electronegative value. for aluminum it is 1.61 and copper has 1.90. Due to these values certain material like copper and aluminum must be in the correct orientation of the positive and negative terminals. This is what polarizes the battery into a biased capacitor that can increase above that spread of .29 volts. This fact creates an soft diode like effect and charging must break down that effect first to charge the material between the plates. All batteries are capacitors weather you like it or not. Just that in a battery the chemicals or material are used to increase the effect. Where do you think the electrolytic caps get their self recharge ability albeit a rather small self recharge?

jbignes5

Quote from: MileHigh on December 08, 2015, 02:27:27 PM
The only misleading is the claim that he has outperformed lithium-ion batteries with his compound.  It's supposed to be a measurement clip, watch it again.

You are still tied to that thin chain.  You need to wake up and break the chain.


Breaking the chain here:


What he did say is that for a given amount of material used he could store more in his hybrid then a lithium ion battery of more material. Pound for pound he is exactly right. Even with the rudimentary analysis he has done he shows this and given the fact that he did not discharge his hybrid fully in that video I would say that shows the errors were fully acknowledged to be his advantage in this case. You seem to focus only on what you want to see and don't think anything about the fact that the test was not fully complete when he cut off the test early due to time restraints.