@tinman

QuoteOnce again,Jim is lost,and dose not know what  AC Induction motor slip is-so he came up with beat frequency generation  [/size]I can(and have) replicated this effect using an !off the shelf! AC induction motor,and variac--it's that simple. At low voltages,where the frequency remains at 50/60Hz,the motor will !slip!. When the voltage gets high enough,the poles of the motor will grab the frequency,and synchronize with it.

You can prove the beat frequency phenomena for yourself quite easily Brad. Take two brushed DC motors and connect them in series electrically and when you spin one (the generator) the other one (the motor) spins. Now add a small parallel capacitance across the motor and we have effectively added an LC tank circuit to the equation which is what Jim Murray is talking about.


Think of it this way brad, I have two pulleys and a belt connecting them and if the belt is tight then the transmission of force is constant like DC. Now let's loosen the belt and let it start to vibrate like our LC tank does. At which point the inertia of the drive belt itself and it's small loss/gain in motion may periodically increase or decrease the speed of either the drive or load pulley.


We find that the belt oscillation overdrives the load pulley and then because the belt is connecting the two pulley's and oscillating the load pulley then transfers this energy to the drive pulley... then repeats. I know these things because I'm a farm boy and I have a knack for having machinery vibrate itself apart at the drop of a hat.


You can also use a two pendulum system as I have built to show the effect better. Take a lever with a fulcrum in the middle then attach one pendulum to each end of the lever. Set one pendulum in motion and you will see an alternation where one pendulum slows as the other increases then at some point the energy transfer reverses. The pendulum which was increasing is now slowing and the pendulum which was slowing is now increasing. These are oscillating/alternating systems and are easy to understand.


I'm not sure where your going here because I have absolutely no issues proving what you say cannot be done in both mechanical and electrical systems. It's not a problem in fact I have more of a problem trying to get rid of the phenomena than I do creating it.


AC

Quote from: Erfinder on September 02, 2016, 11:15:30 AM
You can't read......Not no, Hell no....




I have no interest in joining your boy band....HELL NO.  The two of you can work that out on your own.

What are you scared of, no pink crayons at the party?

Put your work where your mouth is. Lets do it.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

Quote from: allcanadian on September 02, 2016, 11:17:34 AM
@tinman





Think of it this way brad, I have two pulleys and a belt connecting them and if the belt is tight then the transmission of force is constant like DC. Now let's loosen the belt and let it start to vibrate like our LC tank does. At which point the inertia of the drive belt itself and it's small loss/gain in motion may periodically increase or decrease the speed of either the drive or load pulley.


We find that the belt oscillation overdrives the load pulley and then because the belt is connecting the two pulley's and oscillating the load pulley then transfers this energy to the drive pulley... then repeats. I know these things because I'm a farm boy and I have a knack for having machinery vibrate itself apart at the drop of a hat.


You can also use a two pendulum system as I have built to show the effect better. Take a lever with a fulcrum in the middle then attach one pendulum to each end of the lever. Set one pendulum in motion and you will see an alternation where one pendulum slows as the other increases then at some point the energy transfer reverses. The pendulum which was increasing is now slowing and the pendulum which was slowing is now increasing. These are oscillating/alternating systems and are easy to understand.





AC

OK AC,here is your challenge.
Show me any device that gains energy by way of this !so called! beat frequency phenomena .
I would also advise both your self and Erfinder to put forward your description of what beat frequency phenomena-or what beat frequency is to you?.

QuoteI'm not sure where your going here because I have absolutely no issues proving what you say cannot be done in both mechanical and electrical systems. It's not a problem in fact I have more of a problem trying to get rid of the phenomena than I do creating it.

You lost me her.
What are you referring to ?.

QuoteYou can prove the beat frequency phenomena for yourself quite easily Brad. Take two brushed DC motors and connect them in series electrically and when you spin one (the generator) the other one (the motor) spins. Now add a small parallel capacitance across the motor and we have effectively added an LC tank circuit to the equation which is what Jim Murray is talking about.

No you havnt. The small parallel cap will act only as a smoothing cap-nothing more,and will have absolutely nothing to do with beat frequency generation.

I have provided accurate P/in --P/out measurements for Jims dynaflux generator,and as i stated-it is the worst i have seen.

Here is the truth

To once again quote the title of Jim Murrays video
Man Solves Tesla's Secret To Amplifying Power By Nearly 5000%

Outright lie.
Said man has designed a generator that is only just above 7% efficient.

Avoided at all cost--the presentation of any accurate power measurements that show this 5000% amplification of power.
Avoided at all cost by way of misdirection by Erfinder,any evidence to back up Jim Murrays claims--the man Erfinder says !is tha man!

So the ball is in your court AC
Provide proof that !actual! beat frequency generation increases the efficiency of a motor or generator.

As i said,Jim is showing inductive frequency slip--nothing to do with beat frequency.

You can prove the beat frequency phenomena for yourself quite easily Brad. Take two brushed DC motors and connect them in series electrically and when you spin one (the generator) the other one (the motor) spins. Now add a small parallel capacitance across the motor and we have effectively added an LC tank circuit to the equation which is what Jim Murray is talking about.

Yes,this i can do in a heart beat,and show you with the scope that there is no beat frequency bollocks involved with this circuit you present.


Brad

Quote from: Erfinder on September 02, 2016, 10:55:56 AM

Ah there he is....the one.....the only.....mr. non existing self assisting oscillations (as seen on his scope....in an hour long presentation where you only hear static noises when he connects and disconnects a coil....rubbish....) ABOMINATION......partnered output coils are a sad joke.....you need three coils, not two jackass....I hope you are taking notes....this is how you offend someone.


And as far as the challenge goes.....you boys got me shaking in my boots....I think I wet myself.....being of the unreasonable, weak sort, you felt it necessary to tag team me, unfortunate, were this not the case, I may have considered, it's out of the question now.  You both have done a piss poor fine job at demonstrating (uh not....) that I only practice junk science.....I am so ashamed....I am a lost cause, cause I see what Jim Murray has and understand how to  use it, I'm stupid because I can respect the significance of generating beat frequencies, and can but won't sight examples of others who have done the same in the past and are doing it today....I am the definition of whatever you say, and you know what, I can live with that.  Why, because what you say to me or about me doesn't sustain, nor take away from who and what I am and represent. 


If you think that you or your partner in crime are going to run me off, because I don't speak the agreed upon language, you got another thing coming.  The smart thing to do would be to ignore me till I put my foot in my own mouth.  Not going to happen, but I will do my absolute best to keep sounding stupid for you two.....You two are at the heart of the problem within the community.  You think you are helping folk, but you aren't.  What are you helping them with, let me see.....ah yes....you are helping them to conform.  You aren't helping them to see things as they choose, as did those who came before the laws were penned?  So much information, so many long videos, so many debates, belittlements, battles, and what do you have to show for all your effort, what do the followers have to show for your effort (don't show me the stuff your groupies have done, not interested in that...) what has anyone gained from your insights, I can sum it up in one word....NOTHING.  Chris.....you spend a lot of time here, things not going well for you and yours in that private group....If I had such a group, I wouldn't be here.....that's just me....You both glorify yourselves, your work, my this my that....you offend my work....blah blah...You ass clowns or as brad says, asshats, (stupid) offend (specifically brad) those who have been working for decades, men with real educations, real experience...WTF?  To hell with you both and anyone else in your posse, you both have nothing, and with any luck, you'll never will have more than that two day old sandwich on your desk with the soft shit butter spread. 


Hot air.....I like that.....lots of good done with hot air....hair dryers....hot air balloons....gliders work on thermals don't they.....BS science can be used to generate hot air....From the junkies mouth, BS has practical value...




Retards

EMJ putting his two cents worth in had nothing to do with me cup cake,so stop being so dramatic 

As for the rest of your post--bla.

How is Jim Murrays dynaflux generator looking now?--just over 7% efficient going by his own numbers in his own video.
Yea--he da man

Where is his 5000% power amplification ?

All proof you will-and do avoid at all cost,just to keep your !Alice in wonderland! fairy tale going.


As i said,Tesla's good name once again dragged through the mud to promote lies.

Epic fail


Brad

Quote from: EMJunkie on September 02, 2016, 09:19:25 AM


Brad, none of my posts were directed at you, snip

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

Same here Brad, no problem. The problem is, is that it has become a polarity issue where the group has to pick sides... this is nonsense.


If the different points of view could be presented with less "certainty" and left with a wee bit of wiggle room, then we could add and subtract without hostility taking place.


I want to be on good terms with both parties and not have to chose sides, OK?


Brad, sooner or later we come to understand that 98 % of the world has never heard of us and could care less ...and that of the remaining 2 % most will look favourably on us ... yet there will a tiny minority that hate (rather a strong word) us... that we can do nothing about, except  grin and bear it, no need to get all emotional about it.


So erfinder, you have the option to recognize that your approach is not having the desired effect and to change to a less confrontational style to better get your important message across would be a benefit to all.


Regards, Ron