Quote from: i_ron on September 04, 2016, 02:50:26 PM

Quote from: Erfinder on September 04, 2016, 12:41:36 PM
The force we induce has to be given a path through its inducer. Trust me, I know this makes absolutely no sense,


Regards

Not so absurd, IF there is a solution to the problem


Ron

A while ago there was a big debate about the vortex shape of the magnetic field lines.

Despite several experimental demonstrations, there were reluctant people sticking to the description from the books which described only the envelope of the (vortex) field lines. For those there is no solution to the problem, hence all the experiments are stirred to a dead end. When the vortex shape is considered,  a solution appears almost self evident, as in the attached picture.


That being only the principle, I know people developed practical machines. And I guess right now on this forum, one is trying to share more details, while applying the same principle to make head through all the opposition.


Regards.

Quote from: barbosi on September 04, 2016, 05:12:45 PM
Not so absurd, IF there is a solution to the problem


Ron

A while ago there was a big debate about the vortex shape of the magnetic field lines.

Despite several experimental demonstrations, there were reluctant people sticking to the description from the books which described only the envelope of the (vortex) field lines. For those there is no solution to the problem, hence all the experiments are stirred to a dead end. When the vortex shape is considered,  a solution appears almost self evident, as in the attached picture.

That being only the principle, I know people developed practical machines. And I guess right now on this forum, one is trying to share more details, while applying the same principle to make head through all the opposition.

Regards.

Thanks for the info, now if I wasn't so thick and knew what to do with it?


So there is hope yet... good to see the forum functioning again.


Ron

Quote from: i_ron on September 04, 2016, 05:11:40 PM

Thanks Chris!!! that is exactly the kind of information I needed, much appreciated.


So you see, I am still looking for that "low lenz" generator, lol


The soap saga starts with Chadwick who runs Bear house, who runs JB, prest wicki, Starling, who self destructed, so the army guy, along with a certain doctor, are just the bottom rungs of the ladder. Eyes open here.


Ron

Hi Ron - Isnt it sickening how Control and Minipulation have destroyed portions of History and try to destroy the future!!!

Squires did have a Simulated FEMM Concept, I cant blame the guy because he did try! It should have been better investigated before selling info on it.

A device I learnt a lot from is the Ward Force Generator - Cheap and easy to build, some reuses of materials. I bought the Magnetic Base Dial Indicator from EBay, and used some old Coils I had already, Spin up the Magnet with a Motor and whaaa Laaa a very interesting device.

Although my particular version was not OU, it was a very interesting device.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

Quote from: EMJunkie on September 04, 2016, 05:31:40 PM



A device I learnt a lot from is the Ward Force Generator - Cheap and easy to build, some reuses of materials. I bought the Magnetic Base Dial Indicator from EBay, and used some old Coils I had already, Spin up the Magnet with a Motor and whaaa Laaa a very interesting device.

Although my particular version was not OU, it was a very interesting device.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

Thanks, that is something I had seen before but not investigated... will have another look


Ron

Quote from: barbosi on September 04, 2016, 05:12:45 PM

Ron

A while ago there was a big debate about the vortex shape of the magnetic field lines.

Despite several experimental demonstrations, there were reluctant people sticking to the description from the books which described only the envelope of the (vortex) field lines. For those there is no solution to the problem, hence all the experiments are stirred to a dead end. When the vortex shape is considered,  a solution appears almost self evident, as in the attached picture.

That being only the principle, I know people developed practical machines. And I guess right now on this forum, one is trying to share more details, while applying the same principle to make head through all the opposition.

Regards.

Just for general information, but I am strongly reminded of a recent project I did for a well know Alaskan sensitive...some 33 degree coil forms for intersecting coils at the, shall we say block wall. The messy bits at the block wall are just shipping discs. Finished they are plastic and aluminum discs. I believe he has them wound and is impressed with the performance but I haven't heard if they are self powering yet. The coils would intersect as per your graphic.


Ron