Quote from: tinman on September 05, 2016, 09:35:50 AM


I believe if that was the case,then we would see a huge offset of the output wave, due to biasing the core.
Remember,the PMs field through the core dose not change,but the field produced by the primary coil is alternating--so why no biased offset on the output?.

With every other coil i have tried this with,i get either a reduction in output,or an offset due to biasing on the output wave form.

Might look into this a bit further.

EMJ-any thoughts?--maybe some relationship to the MEG effect ?.


Brad

Hey Brad - Excellent Video. Thanks for sharing!

I think the video title does give an accurate description, you have shown that the addition of a Permanent Magnet has increased the output: "Magnetic Power Amplification"

If we look at the Scope shots from one to the other, we do see a change in phase angle, only small, but a change in a direction we would not expect, we would expect the Coupling Coefficient (K) has increased between these two coils, from Primary to Secondary, but that something else may be at play also.

Increase: 6.571
V_In: 56.0mv
V_Out: 368.0mv

We should always see Electromagnetic Induction ±180 degrees, and being that we see a decrease, away from the closest 180 degree mark, in the opposite direction, is significant.

So, maybe, as you say there is some localised Saturation due to the Permanent Magnet, which in turn is pushing the Change in Flux (B) of the primary, through to the secondary, inducing 6.571 times more Electromagnetic Induction, or Maybe the Permanent Magnet itself is actually the excess Coupling Coefficient (K), that we see. I think the evidence points toward this, the latter; the Permanent Magnet is adding Energy to the System.

This is just my thoughts and I may be totally wrong.

Shaded Pole Motors run their laminations fairly near to saturation, so Carroll's explanation is something to think about.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

Damn when one needs a shredder, TinselKoala (aka TK) is not around.
TK, if you read this and still value your science, unfriend timan 'till he reads the elementary books in electricity.

Regards, no more.

Quote from: barbosi on September 05, 2016, 05:24:37 PM
Damn when one needs a shredder, TinselKoala (aka TK) is not around.
TK, if you read this and still value your science, unfriend timan 'till he reads the elementary books in electricity.

Regards, no more.

barbosi - You sound like an Erfinder dressed in drag. Infact you sign off many of your posts in the same way!!!

You could take your Bi-Polar Buddy, and start a B I B S Thread: Believe In Bull S*@%

Please feel free to prove me wrong, I will be more than happy to concede, I am only human.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


P.S: We all know what Bibs do, catch and soak up Dribble!!!

Had tested moving the toroid coil gradually away from the rotor as Brad had asked. There was less drag and the output diminished even as the speed of the rotor gained.

So looking at his motor transformer with the magnet set inside, I tried a few things and this is what I came up with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJj3Dd4GhO4&feature=youtu.be

Mags

Quote from: i_ron on September 05, 2016, 03:35:52 PM

Brad, is the phase difference caused by the magnet not being vertical?


This is interesting because when it is running, as a generator, there will be a different path length at the start of the induction every time, and with the coils in series??? LOL


Ron

Yes,the phase angle changes when the magnet is turned from the vertical to horizontal position.

Heading off this weekend for a camping trip,so may not get back to it until next week,as i still have a bit of work to do to the van through this week.

But it's looking like we will see some interesting effects take place with this setup.


Brad