Quote from: tinman on September 18, 2016, 04:14:59 AM
You just dont get it-do you.

Once again for your benefit.
Lenz law-->The direction of current induced in a conductor by a changing magnetic field due to Faraday's law of induction will be such that it will create a field that opposes the change that produced it.

What happens when we increase this opposition to change in an electric motor?
When is the greatest BackEMF induced?
What is it that reduces current flow in an electric motor?

What i stated is correct--i try to increase the field that opposes the change that produced it.
I try to increase Lenz
The more you try to reduce(circumvent) Lenz,the more inefficient your device becomes.
If there is no opposition to current flow(no Lenz)(no impedance),then current would rise to a maximum value instantly in a motor and inductor.
If there was no Lenz in a generator,there would be no current flow at all.
Is it sinking in now?.

Oh look-i circumvented Lenz 
As i said,it can hide where it cant be seen-if your not looking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IVxO94mcB0

Brad

Brad is completely correct!!!

The ones here that choose not to understand this subject and deny the absolute most basic concepts of Science, and make big deal over temprature drifts, because they do not know any difference, are wrong!!!

I encourage you, do your own research, do your own experiments! Cross Check all what you are being told and learn for yourselves.

Current Flowing in a Coil constitutes a Magnetic Field, No Magnetic Field, No Current Flow, Period, will never in a Million Years change!!!

As was just discussed with AC:

Quote from: EMJunkie on September 18, 2016, 04:57:09 AM

I guess, the definition of Induction should change to: "To Induce the potential for Charged Particles to Flow"

The critical part, is what you do with the Magnetic Field!!!

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Quote from: Erfinder on September 18, 2016, 05:32:28 AM

The induced voltage is greatest when rotor and stator fields are in quadrature relation. 

The induced, specifically the induced voltage and current together "regulate" the applied current.



In my opinion, which doesn't matter, till it does....what you are suggesting is exactly what I identified, and stated, you are amplifying the influence that this concept has on your system. This is purpose defeating, we (speaking for myself and those who know becuase they have seen) don't want to increase its influence, we want to decrease it and allow it to return to the system regulated state, thereby creating an oscillation in what would otherwise steady state (steady state used loosely) condition.  Chris asked an important question regarding the inductance of the coil but then takes a step in the wrong direction in saying that increasing it brings one more in line with a parametric oscillator, the opposite is true, it's far easier to drop the inductance than it is to increase it.  Try increasing the inductance to the degree that you can decrease it, observe that you cannot!  Swings on the order of 100:1 are accomplished with relative ease when you "DECREASE" versus increase. This is how you parametrically excite, and from here ferroresonance can manifest as a side effect, you don't even plan for it, it just happens.....



Seriously, the system is terribly inefficient because 90+ percent of the applied is being annihilated by the induced.  Your efficiency increases as you decrease its hold on the system. The thing is, you cannot, the thing to see is we are dealing with a wave, and as such we know how waves behave when they encounter an impedance.  Your mission is to establish the proper impedance for the wave, when the wave meets this impedance a second wave manifests which can be used to counteract the negative influence of the wave which induced it. This is how you negate the effect of lenz, my dogma.

Erfinder - I dissagree.

Take a Coil with a Core, measure the inductance.
Place a large Magnet on the Core, measure the Inductance.

What is the difference going to be, in what direction? Of course every Transformer in the world does the same thing and not any of them are Parametric Oscillators!!!

To your credit, you do have some points. You are completely correct when you said: "In my opinion".


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@AC - I find MMF interesting, we know the equation is: MMF (F) = Turns (N) X Current (I)

So when an EMF is "Generated", if we draw a current from this Potential to have a Current Flow, then the MMF (F) is 180 Degrees out of Phase, and also it is equal and opposite, ideally, to the Source.

So, the MMF, a Current (I) through Turns (N) has its own Magnetising Force in the opposing Direction, all at the same Time (t), then there is a strong case for the associated properties of the Magnetic Field doing Work well past the boundary of the detectable Magnetic Field itself!

What do you think?

   Chris Sykes
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Quote from: Erfinder on September 18, 2016, 06:04:34 AM

The difference between us is I speak from my bench, and you from where you speak from, where you speak from isn't my bench.  I use the term opinion even though I am speaking from experience.

That to say this....by all means....disagree.


I just reread your post, and it hit me like a ton of bricks, you aren't familiar with dropping the inductance.  I never mentioned the use of magnets, nor implied anything about them, we aren't on the same page period.  You are disagreeing with something you have yet to verify yourself on the bench....I don't need magnets to manipulate the inductance of my system, nor do I need a change in current or flux...LOL.....  Furthermore, I disagree with you, every transformer, generator, and motor on the planet are parametric oscillators, that which differentiates them from those apparatus which can truly be classified as such is the amplitude of the oscillation.

Erfinder, yes, been there done that already - Graphed it - Publically avaliable on my site: http://www.hyiq.org/Updates/Update?Name=Update%2017-12-13

Guess what the Graph looks like?

Youre just too slow Erfinder!!! Wow you a good at talking!!! Shame its not reflected in your work!

   Chris Sykes
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Quote from: Erfinder on September 18, 2016, 06:36:45 AM

Great.....a chart.  How about a simple demo of you decreasing the inductance of a coil... followed by an equally simple demo of you increasing the inductance of a coil.

DEMO:

Take the Core Out. WhaLa "decreasing the inductance"

Put the Core back in. WhaLa "increasing the inductance"


Erfinder, you try so hard, but still youre still stuck on the: "In my opinion" bit - Maybe tonight you will wake up and get it?

I do doubt it!!! Too full of Piffle and Dribble!!! You - BIBS - Believe in BS

   Chris Sykes
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P.S: A little more for you Dribble Boy: http://www.hyiq.org/Research/Details?Name=Whats%20it%20going%20to%20take%20to%20Get%20OU%3F