Quote from: i_ron on October 29, 2016, 12:16:55 PM

Mag amp experiments

Ron

Erfinder,

Questions for the day...

Correct me if I am wrong but a "mag amp" is not an amplifier in the sense that it is capable of amplifying source, rather the "amplification" is merely the ratio of control voltage to output voltage? And while inductance is variable ohmic resistance is still present.

If that is the case, then what is the advantage of using it in a 'motor/generator'?

In your case are the transformers being used as mag amps?

In your builds I "think" I see two different coils, maybe one perpendicular to the rotor and one horizontal?

Or is the mag amp principle active at the coil level?

Are you modulating the coils in some manner? Sort of heterodyne? with the transformer doing the demodulation?

Ron

Quote from: i_ron on October 29, 2016, 01:41:07 PM
Erfinder,
Questions for the day...
Correct me if I am wrong but a "mag amp" is not an amplifier in the sense that it is capable of amplifying source, rather the "amplification" is merely the ratio of control voltage to output voltage? And while inductance is variable ohmic resistance is still present.
If that is the case, then what is the advantage of using it in a 'motor/generator'?
In your case are the transformers being used as mag amps?
In your builds I "think" I see two different coils, maybe one perpendicular to the rotor and one horizontal?
Or is the mag amp principle active at the coil level?
Are you modulating the coils in some manner? Sort of heterodyne? with the transformer doing the demodulation?
Ron

All good questions Ron. I'd like to add a few more.
@Erfinder - The machines you've demonstrated so far appear to be radial rotor magnet / coil interface designs.?
Or at least, thats how they appear on camera.

Have you built any coaxial rotor (planar) magnet / coil interface designs and utilized the same principle of operation. ?
If so, how does the coaxial design performance compare with radial designs?
Is the principle on which your system works applicable to a wide range of coil design and placement?
Cheers

Quote from: i_ron on October 29, 2016, 01:41:07 PM
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And while inductance is variable ohmic resistance is still present.
If that is the case, then what is the advantage of using it in a 'motor/generator'?
snip...
Ron

If you recall Ron, some 5 years ago I directed you to an experiment I did using a series motor coil / transformer configuration.
I asked myself exactly the question you just did, then thought to myself, well, let's find out.
The positive result was rather unexpected.

If your memory, like mine, ain't what it used to be, here's a refresher link, the relevant pages are 12 to 14.
Transformer use begins on page 13..... http://adams.5gbfree.com

Cheers

Quote from: i_ron on October 29, 2016, 01:41:07 PM

In your case are the transformers being used as mag amps?


Ron

Quote from: Erfinder on October 30, 2016, 03:11:36 AM

No


Erfinder

Are you using the transformers as a delay lines?


Luc

Quote from: Erfinder on October 30, 2016, 03:11:36 AM

Only an authority is in the  position to correct you if you are wrong, I am no authority.  I cannot agree with what you say as my perspective is different from yours.  Where we can agree is your view is the one which has been handed down to us by industry.  They reveal to us time and time again that our best interest is not in their best interest.

Inductance is the variable being manipulated.  Resistance is still present, assuming it is present.  The text books inform us of what inductance is, in closed circuits but sheds no light as to what it is in open circuits. 

Define "motor/generator".  Your definition is not my definition.                                                                                                                               
The advantage can be comprehended only after you have acquired the necessary understanding of what  a motor/generator is.
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erfinder your patience and reply's are reasonable and much appreciated!

Thanks

Ron