Brad, despite your declared wish to work towards increasing Lenz effects, you just made it perfectly clear that you don't really have an interest in Lenz at all.
To the proposed scrutiny of the picture from patent  568,179 you have no opinion that's perfectly clear again. Instead you use Tesla's tower as a hook to derail the focus of everyone towards your 1w BS challenge. I could think that you have the attention span of a toddler, but I rather say your ego is desperate for the spot light. Go wind something, show it on youtube and answer the fans' questions as a method of quantifying the number of followers.
To me with great discomfort, you represent the typology which gave reason to Sartre to forcefully admit in writing "The story of a life, whichever it may be, is the story of a failure."
Your ego is grotesque, please keep it in leash and spare us of meaningless brain farts. If there is nothing to be said of any value, please have decency to let this thread die gracefully.

Was messing around with the Igniter circuit on sim just to try some things.

When we connect the batt, large inductance and cap in series, there is an initial oscillation. So the beginning of that oscillation, current moves forward through the inductor to the cap. This generally peaks well above input voltage. So we could think that when the cap peaks, that is when we hit the switch and dump the cap into the primary, and cycle from there.  So probably not much there for the pickins.  But then as I played, I noticed something that may be very different.....

When we initially connect the source, the oscillation begins. power out from source, through inductor and into cap, so energy used from the source is available in the cap at + peak. But what if we let the oscillation cycle go on before we take from the cap. What if we let the initial oscillation cycle go until we have a neg peak in the cap before we discharge? The cap will have almost as much neg peak as was the first pos peak, but during the neg cycle, the second half of the initial oscillation cycle sent energy back to the source. So in this case, did we get more out than in? Think on it..

Mags

Quote from: Magluvin on November 19, 2016, 03:22:20 PM
Was messing around with the Igniter circuit on sim just to try some things.

When we connect the batt, large inductance and cap in series, there is an initial oscillation. So the beginning of that oscillation, current moves forward through the inductor to the cap. This generally peaks well above input voltage. So we could think that when the cap peaks, that is when we hit the switch and dump the cap into the primary, and cycle from there.  So probably not much there for the pickins.  But then as I played, I noticed something that may be very different.....

When we initially connect the source, the oscillation begins. power out from source, through inductor and into cap, so energy used from the source is available in the cap at + peak. But what if we let the oscillation cycle go on before we take from the cap. What if we let the initial oscillation cycle go until we have a neg peak in the cap before we discharge? The cap will have almost as much neg peak as was the first pos peak, but during the neg cycle, the second half of the initial oscillation cycle sent energy back to the source. So in this case, did we get more out than in? Think on it..

Mags

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=36&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19880712&CC=US&NR=4757419A&KC=A#

Quote from: lancaIV on November 19, 2016, 04:31:39 PM
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=36&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19880712&CC=US&NR=4757419A&KC=A#

Not sure that is the same as I explained.

This is a quote from the pat you have shown....

"Thus a magnetic pulse can be created via the inductor, while substantially reducing the charge current for the capacitor and eliminating a voltage pulse across the capacitor opposite in polarity to that of the charged state of the capacitor for producing the magnetic pulse."

1 This means it it not the same as I have said, "while substantially reducing the charge current for the capacitor and eliminating a voltage pulse across the capacitor opposite in polarity to that of the charged state of the capacitor for producing the magnetic pulse."

2  In your case, the intention is to produce a magnetic pulse, of which if the pulse is absorbed by its intended target, the oscillation will be reduced quickly, as the target is the load. So we lose to the load before we did anything about it.


In my case we have to count on the inductor to be free of any magnetic drains and the cap going full peak in the first phase of the initial wave and then letting the cycle go full reversal before taking from the cap. No diodes so far, just a controlled switching at the neg peak.
If the inductor and cap are very good quality and low ohm loss, the second half of the initial wave cycle will be sending energy back to the source until neg peak.

If we have little loss in doing so, MOST of what was in the cap when dumped to load should be more than what was taken in total from the source within the full 270deg cycle.

This is just a one shot experiment at this time. Thinking on a micro controller to govern the operation to best efficiency, monitoring for neg peaks, etc.

Dunno yet but it seems plausible.

Mags

Hmm. the cap voltage never goes neg. It peaks to what the inductor sends it to and when current flows back to the source and stops the cap is at 0v.  Looking for a possible way around that.

Mags