Quote from: argona369 on August 23, 2007, 06:37:08 PM
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Hi everyone,

I?d just let you know that my second series of experiments about universons were unsuccessfully concluded. But, in the same time, they point toward the validity of the theory of Mr. Poher! How can it be?! I?ll explain myself.

What I?ve done: I?ve discharged hi-energy capacitors into a gas-tube. The discharged energy was quite large (>500J). For those not very familiar with capacitors, by short-circuiting more than 40-50J is pretty scary, even dangerous. (It can be easily lethal also, depending on the voltage, so take good care!) Anyway, 500J is also much larger than 15J used by Mr. Poher. I?ve stored those +500J in several series-connected capacitors, the equivalent of 2750microF, charged at >600V (usually 620-650V).

Now, like I said before, I could not measure any abnormal acceleration neither other kind of external effects on the discharge axis or elsewhere. But there is good news also. Except for a burst of light, the most part of that energy seemed to vanish. In order to understand the meaning of it, remember that 500J is enough to fully light a classic filament 5W bulb for 100seconds (or one of 100W for 5s). The bulb will emit light and it will also get very hot. But when I?ve discharged the whole 500J at once, none of the wires, neither the tube got hot, not even warm! The discharge time was on order of fractions of second (I couldn?t measure it exactly but I will do it in the near future) so the released power was large (>kW), to say at least.

So, the question is: where did the energy go?
I know some of it went of as light.
Another part went out as RF burst and maybe some X-rays.
Finally, some of it went out as Joule heat, but like I?ve said, this part was very small.
A totally insignificant portion went out as sound; the tube does a slight ?cling? sound during the discharge (this part was a nice surprise since I?ve expected the tube to violently explode in small pieces or at least to fail/ to crack?)
And the rest of the energy?!

My hypothesis is that quite a significant portion of the discharged energy went into producing a flux of universons (a gravitational wave, if you like). Unfortunately, due to the setup I have, that flux (if real) was pretty much distributed in 4pi radians, becoming too diluted to be detected by crude methods. Anyway, at this point I have a lot of questions and uncertainties. That?s why I hope someone from Mr. Poher team will come here and comment on it. (My attempts of contacting Mr. Poher were unsuccessfully).

For the near future I plan to check if X-rays are emitted and, if so, to estimate the flux (by using a photographic film) and to protect myself against them. 
I will also try to estimate the power of RF burst and the energy contained in it.
Finally, I?ll try to intensify the magnetic field (check the patent for schematics) and to imagine more refined methods for identifying some of the predicted effects of an anisotropic flux of universons.
I?d really like to see it replicated and undoubtedly confirmed.

Any thoughts on the above?
Any advice?
Anyone willing to repeat the experiment or to conduct others on this line?

Tx,
Tinu

Quote from: tinu on September 15, 2007, 02:37:08 PM

What I?ve done: I?ve discharged hi-energy capacitors into a gas-tube.

...sounds dangerous but interesting, do you have any more information on the gas tube? Pictures, fill, pressure, original design use?

Well, yes. The tube is the easy part.
It?s a common commercial lightning tube rated 18W (Phillips TL-D/54-765). At least it contains heavy ions and noble gases (Hg, as per patent) but the pressure is not low enough and the electrodes are symmetrical and not in the form I wanted. But the electrodes can at least be heated, thus electron emission stimulated?

I?ve tried to find a company to manufacture a tube according to the specification in the patent but not lucky yet and that part has to wait.

Anyway, the tube I?ve used should be close enough. Some effects predicted by theory should be noticed imho.
(I?ve tried also a couple of Russian vacuum tubes and TV cathode tubes but the current is too small for them to be of any use). One point is clear: while current is more than enough in my last attempts, the length of the lightning tube requires a much larger voltage. Hence, more capacitors will follow?

Thanks for coming here and checking it,
Tinu

Greetings one an all. I've been lurking around this forum now for about 6 months, and I must say
I have been enjoying the depth and flow of ideas that abound in its pages. I dont actually put much
credence or faith in the validity of many of the ideas expressed here from time to time, but I think
the forum is invaluable in its contribution to the furthering of scientific understanding and the
free exchange of ideas. Keep it up everybody.

Every now and then I have been tempted to put in my "two cents worth", not because because I
necesarily have something positive to say, but because the claims of some people really need rebuking.
However, I do not bother, because other forum members usually do a good job of showing these claims
or ideas up for what they are; often they are just pure silliness, or plain old fashioned fraud.

When I visited Pohlers website regarding universons, I became quite impressed with the depth of his
theory, and his work with regard to experimental validation.

Then I read a thread regarding a theory called "TDM".

Having never heard of, nor read anything, anywhere, about "TDM" theory, I searched for and
found this site :-  http://www.crownedanarchist.com/timedensitymass.htm

The TDM theory is presented in the form of a series of email correspondences between Roland Michel Tremblay and
William Taggart. 

The following is an extract from the site which appears after hitting the (page down) button approximately 7 times.

"What TDM exploits is a theoretical physical interpretation of one of Zeno's paradox's, Ulysses and the Arrow
( Which I am sure you are familiar with)

Basically Zeno said that if Ulysses stood at a given point ( Which I will call point (a) ) and fired an arrow
to a target (Which I will call point (b) ).
The then the flight of the arrow would be the full distance away from the target  (point (a) to point  (b).
As the arrow flew through the air it would be 1/2 the distance from point (b) , then 1/4 the distance from
point (b) , 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, 1/64 and so on for infinity.

What Zeno said is : when does the arrow reach zero and hit the target  (Point (b) )
In fact it never does!"

Any theory can seem plausible, and even reasonable, when considered only within the realm of "Theory" itself.
Taking a purely theorectical approach to a problem often leads one into a logic trap, which sometimes can only
be described as "silly". IMHO TDM is "silliness".

A theory can only be considered as practical or useful or indeed "on the right track" if it can be shown
experimentally and/or actually, that the theory is indeed reflective of, and provable within objective reality.

Einstein's theory of relativity and its implications for the relationship between a moving object's velocity and
it's own experience of time compared to the experience of time by a stationery observer, caused great consternation
to many of his peers, and at the time was considered "silly" to many, because they had no way of verifying his ideas.
Many years later, however, with the evolution of knowledge and techniques, Einstein's theory was proven by experiment
and objective actuality, to be right.

Now his theory concerning "relative time experience" has been applied in a practical manner to synchronise
an orbiting satelite's on-board clock with those on earth.

In the preceding quoted paragraphs however, if we were to substitute Ulysses with any other real person
(your neighbour perhaps), and the target with any other real person (your brother or son or father perhaps),
then one can observe the reality that the target would be well and truly "dead" if the archer is an accurate one.

History is full of people (targets) killed by arrows shot by archers (Uluysses) and it would suffice to say,
that telling their surviving spouses, family and other loved ones that they need not worry, because
theoretically the arrow never hit it's target, would be an insult to them of the highest order!

Theory is a product of the human mind, but an object (objective reality) exists, even if a human mind is not present to
acknowledge or analyse it.

The Ulysses story reminds me of another philosopical question/mind experiment; "If a tree falls in a forest and nobody
is around to hear it, does it make a sound?".

Lets presume that there are two people in the forest, but one is "deaf".
Only one person can hear the sound and the other doesn't.
But this is not proof that the sound is only an "illusion" and not an objective reality,
since the compression and expansion of air which constitutes sound waves
can be detected and measured by means other than the human ear, and the empirical results of those measurements
via alternative detection can be accessible to both the "deaf" and hearing person.

Now it may well turn out in the future, that TDM theory will be shown experimentally to be correct or valid to some degree,
but IMHO, it will remain as nothing more than a philosophical mind experiment and "silly" theory with no
practical benefits to offer whatsoever.