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The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency

Started by evostars, March 18, 2017, 04:49:26 PM

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synchro1

Quote from: TinselKoala on April 15, 2017, 03:58:18 PM
Your brain needs more oxygen. Why don't you go out and play in the street for a while?

@Tinselkoala,

Acting like you knew something and then set out to deceive everyone is a lot less flattering then just admitting to your ignorance.

Magluvin

Quote from: MileHigh on April 15, 2017, 02:22:42 PM
Magluvin, the above is a pure gratuitous BS posting and you damn well know it.  I never said anything about charging a cap to 400 volts.  And then you do some nonsensical rambling in an attempt to "prove" me wrong.

You are falling into your serious character flaw trap like a fly stuck on flypaper yet again.  That is just a pure BS posting where in your mind you are going to try to pick apart every posting I make and find a flaw in it.  Well, you just exposed your serious character flaw with a nonsensical BS posting.

Get your act together right now and act like a decent self-respecting human being instead of some creep that is going to make posting after posting with some ridiculous negative spin about me like some psycho stalker.

Do you remember teaming up with Synchro1 for about one full year and harassing me and insulting me day in and day out without end?  Your behaviour was the WORST behaviour on a forum that I have ever seen from anyone in my life.  And you aren't going to start again with examples like that completely nonsensical posting shown above.

Get your act together.  You are not going to stalk me on this thread.

MileHigh

Well someone needs to keep an eye out for your 'mistakes'(your words) as you certainly put them out there like they are golden. Here is the issue. You make lots of these kind of mistakes. And you do admit to most of them i have to say. But sometimes it just quirks me as you trying to be the teacher in the group but if these mistakes are not corrected then it is you that are wasting peoples time with bad info. You should check double check and recheck before posting or some will take notice of the error and point it out. Ats it.

I have to read back on the 400v thing as I went by Gyulas post to you for that info assuming it was correct, usually Gyula is on point. Should have checked and rechecked first myself. ;) Sorry if I was wrong.  See What I was doing there? I was kickin my ass. ;D

Mags

Magluvin

Quote from: Erfinder on April 15, 2017, 02:42:37 PM

Properly identifying and identifying with the problem introduces us to the one and only viable solution to the problem.  The problem manifest through the self induction, the wise knew/know, that the solution to the problem is to be found in a proper understanding of self induction, its relation to relation to capacity, and their combined relation to frequency, not as absolutes but constantly modifying variables.  This line of thinking leads one to begin to consider all frequencies as being the resonant frequency....


The authorities have us focusing on absolutes and not parameter variations.  The excuse is we are too stupid to think dynamically, we should stay in the mindset of children to be  brainwashed and think only about static components and parasitic/proximity associations.....a real waste of time in a world where nothing ever stands still.   We are instructed to view systems which are  fundamentally inductive and capacitive, oscillators in the truest sense of the term, as either or....This flawed logic prohibits us from recognizing the oscillator, and more importantly, we never become aware of true role capacitance plays in relation to and within said oscillator. 


Faraday's name is forever tied to capacity....should have been a hint...but no one caught on....  The coulomb and its relation to current....should have been a hint but no one caught on there either....

Thanks.  Ill let it sink in a bit see if I can figure it out.

Mags

Magluvin

Ok, here is a couple pics. First is the speaker wire separated into individual wires. 50 ft ea.

The next pic is making the use of a spinning shop stool to turn table the windings on the disk. The disk is 19in dia and didnt expect the coil to be that small in dia, but didnt want to get to the end of the wind and poss go off the edge. Big headroom to surly avoid a redo. In the second pic you can see I made 4 black lines of contact cement and tape strips every so many turns to hod the wire to the board then just did the larger tape strips to further hold it down. I may want to reuse this wire to test a cylinder coil later and didnt want to gook up the wire with glue. its tight and firm, ooo baby, and the insulation is more rubbery than most wires are and it whant to kinda stick to the other turns. Good for these tests.

The roll out of the package was 2.75in ID and 8.5 OD and the bifi is 1.5ID and 11in OD

7nf between individual wires.
.5mh series connection
.25ohm series connection with meter zero out to eliminate test lead resistance
59 total turns of 14 awg wire
100ft total wire including pigtails

Mags

Magluvin

Just did a regular LC sim of the component values i measured and it says about 85khz.  ;D So to me, that capacitance is not insignificant an any way shape or form. Some dc to dc supllies can run at that freq and we are not in the mhz or even quadra digigihz beyond reality as some here might say it could be due to the insignificant capacitance of a bifi. ;) So we have a regular LC basline to go by without having to build it to compare.

The input was 20v in till peak current and disconnected then pic shot. 


Mags