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The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency

Started by evostars, March 18, 2017, 04:49:26 PM

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Magluvin

lol. 20v in till max current through a 100ohm resistance, and she sings at 50v. Nice.

Mags

Magluvin

Quote from: TinselKoala on April 15, 2017, 11:14:00 AM
Exactly!

oooo thats a nice pic. ;D Just caught that post. Can get lost in here quick. Quite a few pages since early this morning. We had an old welding machine at work and it was pretty beat with a big knob on the front that physically turned a large magnetic shunt in the open area of the really large square core to adjust the power out. The core was heavily rusted especially at the bottom. But what interested me most was the windings. 2 differnt size of wide strap copper conductors and a third winding of some at least 6ga solid for the pri. But that thing you show there is some serious equipment. Thanks

Mags

MileHigh

Quote from: Magluvin on April 15, 2017, 04:48:49 PM
Well someone needs to keep an eye out for your 'mistakes'(your words) as you certainly put them out there like they are golden. Here is the issue. You make lots of these kind of mistakes. And you do admit to most of them i have to say. But sometimes it just quirks me as you trying to be the teacher in the group but if these mistakes are not corrected then it is you that are wasting peoples time with bad info. You should check double check and recheck before posting or some will take notice of the error and point it out. Ats it.

I have to read back on the 400v thing as I went by Gyulas post to you for that info assuming it was correct, usually Gyula is on point. Should have checked and rechecked first myself. ;) Sorry if I was wrong.  See What I was doing there? I was kickin my ass. ;D

Mags

There are tons and tons and tons of mistakes made on this forum and sometimes some of them are completely and utterly idiotic.  And almost all the time nobody says a single damn thing.  I don't see you going after them and many times you are fully aware of them.  So don't give me your nonsense and get my message loud and clear.  You're are trying to preen and wank and say, "Look boys, I'm going to go after this guy and it's going to be sport."  And I don't make "lots of mistakes."  Get out of your BS spin zone.

Nobody wants your show, conduct yourself like a proper person.

gyulasun

Quote from: MileHigh on April 15, 2017, 01:13:18 PM
The model is a self-resonating bifilar coil with a ground reference on one terminal and the other
terminal swinging back and forth between +200 and -200 volts.

Well, then please next time define your examples more precisely on the particulars.

Unfortunately, I have to quote another text from you:
Quote from: MileHigh on April 15, 2017, 11:26:43 AM
You are missing the key point here.  Tesla states in the patent that at the right AC excitation frequency
the bifilar coil (or any coil) will appear as a pure resistance.  This is where the coil is modeled as
a series LC circuit.  And we know that when you excite a series LC circuit with a pure sine wave that
the series LC circuit looks like the wire resistance only because at the right AC excitation frequency
the reactance of the inductance and the capacitance cancel each other out.

So if you pulse a bifilar coil, this is not the same as pure sine wave excitation at the resonant frequency,
and the "wire resistance only" statement does not apply.


Of course I agree with the first paragraph but not with the second I put in bold. Please explain why the
"wire resistance only" statement does not apply when we are pulsing a bifilar coil?

Gyula

MileHigh

Quote from: gyulasun on April 15, 2017, 06:23:42 PM
Well, then please next time define your examples more precisely on the particulars.

Unfortunately, I have to quote another text from you:
Of course I agree with the first paragraph but not with the second I put in bold. Please explain why the
"wire resistance only" statement does not apply when we are pulsing a bifilar coil?

Gyula

The frame of reference for the example is Conrad's set of clips.  All of the particulars are there.  I don't think they is any ambiguity in "peak to peak."

You second question is strange, what's up with you?  When you pulse a bifilar coil what happens?  The response of the coil to a voltage pulse comes into play with an L/R time constant and all of that stuff that has been discussed in depth many times.