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The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency

Started by evostars, March 18, 2017, 04:49:26 PM

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MileHigh

Quote from: Erfinder on April 22, 2017, 08:11:25 AM
Here is the problem....who said anything about power transfer!?  Ah...I get it, that's what you interpreted from Nelson's demonstration.  I am not a groupie, however, I do appreciate why you would think that (that this is about power transfer...a message you keep repeating),  and hey, what do I know, maybe his (Nelson's) message in that video is about power transfer......would be a shame if it was....  Knowing what we know today, who in their right mind is interested and or concerned with the rate at which energy is "dissipated"?!?  I keep coming to the same conclusion regarding that question......"the ignorant".

It is quite fascinating witnessing how you are paralyzed by your years of experience, all that compressed time prohibiting you from truly appreciating what is right in front of you, you of above all were trained to see it and yet...you are as blind as those you judge.....  What you describe is exactly what I want.....Everything you point a crooked finger at and downplay are the strengths of this "geometry", strengths of this "relation", not weakness!

Nelson said power transfer, I am not interpreting anything.  "The ignorant" are interested and or concerned with the rate at which energy is "dissipated"?!?  The poor humble masses worrying about the battery life of their smartphones when there are bigger fish to fry?

What am I blind to?  What is it that I can't appreciate?  What is it that you want?  What are the strengths?  If you refuse to answer and scoff that I would dare to ask then you are nothing more than the resident thread clown.  I am saying this ahead of time because we have been down this road before.

MileHigh

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on April 22, 2017, 08:42:40 AM
"There are billions of transformers manufactured every year for power transfer applications and they are not manufacturing Tesla series bifilar pancake coils, are they?"

Yes it is true , almost transformers are not designed in a bifilar pancake coils, But is this something new? Everybody now that fact, About the reasons to continue use normal transformers ... I'm not so sure anymore if the reason to their use, is their advantage  in relation to other alternatives. Imagine that all the transformers in industries did not need to use iron core . How could this could hypothetical change all industrial and financial  reality and lobby ?
Is the question ...

Nelson Rocha

What you are saying makes no sense.  Transformers use ferrite cores so that their power density is high and therefore they can be made in small sizes.  The ferrite core also retains the magnetic field internal to the transformer itself.  Without a ferrite core the transformer would have to be much larger and it would radiate a magnetic field in the vicinity of the transformer which would disturb other components with undesirable magnetic induction effects happening everywhere.  Even if you do not make use of an iron core, you would not make a transformer in the form of a Tesla bifilar pancake coil, you would make a regular transformer in some sort of solenoid configuration without a series bifilar winding.

We are still waiting for some actual application for a Tesla bifilar pancake coil and so far there is none that I am aware of.

MileHigh

Quote from: Erfinder on April 22, 2017, 11:24:36 AM
exactly....the ignorant.....
everything...
in a word....everything....
as if you can provide it.... 
you don't know? 
I am not going to lose any sleep because the milehigh says that I am the resident thread clown....

Erfinder the enigma man wrapped in a mystery.  Can you crack the code?

Ha ha the things you can find on Google Images.

Magluvin

Considering what I wrote earlier, Im convinced that the bifi has 'also' the same series cap effect I explained, from end to end like the single wire coil. So I recommend trying to run the bifi at the freq the single coil res freq, just to see what happens.  Ive been working so I wont have real time to do these things till sunday, or I would.

Mags

Magluvin

Quote from: MileHigh on April 22, 2017, 11:43:45 AM
Erfinder the enigma man wrapped in a mystery.  Can you crack the code?

Ha ha the things you can find on Google Images.

You are bordering on earlier claims made against syncro. Er has definitely cleaned up his posts and i respect that, a lot. ;)

Clean it up

Mags