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The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency

Started by evostars, March 18, 2017, 04:49:26 PM

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tinman

Quote from: hoptoad on April 27, 2017, 06:14:50 AM
Nice can of worms!!!  ;D  Thanks for sharing that observation.

P.S. Have you tried pulsed DC (square wave) to see if the effect is the same or similar as AC ?

Have not tried a pulsed DC yet Hoptoad
But will do for sure--cant let Mag's down--must look at what dose not get looked at.


Brad

padova

Tinman add resistor R3 at the end of the coil, that is L2, see what current is there, is it the same as across R2?

regards

synchro1

Quote from: tinman on April 26, 2017, 04:16:04 PM
The effect has been confirmed by TK.

I will post the test setup,and video showing the effect tonight after work.

Brad

@Tinman,

The gain is stored in the magnetic field and is measured in "Negative Henries". This measurement has an electrical power equivalency!

Dog-One

Good test Brad.  Another eye opener.

You remember the demonstration video the old MIT physics professor did in regards
to non-conservative fields?  Do you suppose this BPC is invalidating Kirchhoff's Law the
same way?


Magluvin

Thanks for showing and doing ;) Brad. Dont take it badly but I have some questions...

I understand that the ohms of the coils are very low and you cant get an accurate reading in them.

There may be some issue with how you are going about isolating said currents in the coils by way of the 100 ohm resistors.  Also, having a 100ohm resistor in between the middle connections may affect how the coils interact with each other , and probably and especially at the freq you are doing the tests.


1   How are we sure that the resistor current to that far left resistor is the actual current in the 1st coil next to it as a whole?  Like if the resistor in the middle of the circuit shows a different voltage across it than the far left resistor, I would expect some phase shift between coils is causing this, whether it be the inductance of the coils, self inductance as a whole, and or the capacitance, of which is probably altered severely with the 100ohm resistor in between the windings.

2   How is it that we can say that the currents of the middle resistor are a representation of the coil to the far right only? If there is phase shifting, that could foul up your calculations because we didnt actually look at the coils and how they are acting in the circuit in reference to each other. That would require 2 probes.

Maybe you can do a low ohm resistance in series with each coil just to do a voltage division with the coil and dc input to accurately calculate the resistance of each coil. Then you can eliminate the resistor, at the least the middle one, and put the probes across each coil. Both gnds of the probes in the middle of the coil and each probe at the opposite ends of the whole coil and invert one of the traces to compensate. Then you will be able to surely calculate the power dissipated in each coil because you would have the resistance value in check for each coil.

Im really glad you came up with what you have. Its different and new.  Maybe Im wrong to suggest what I have, and if so, please explain.

Mags