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The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency

Started by evostars, March 18, 2017, 04:49:26 PM

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Drak

  I'm no expert in the field of electronics, but instead of directly trying to loop this device, wouldn't it be easier to find the best frequency that gives the best results for the particular device and build a small circuit that supplies that frequency being powered by some caps (or supercaps). Then on the output use equal value caps and see how much they charge? Or is there a lot of losses in caps?


Again I'm no expert, just throwing out ideas.


padova

I might try this setup, but I would go whit more power 0.5W or so.
Also what is impedance of L2 at some frequencies, We all know what happens when you connect low impedance loading,
Unless we really have some sort of negative electricity going on inside.
TK has tried connecting a diodes as  voltage rectifier with associated capacitors, I guess it was too low impedance.

I know these are all well known stuff. I apologize.

respectfully

tinman

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on May 05, 2017, 07:27:38 PM
Ramset , i agree with you  that is much to do to  , but the possible  "OU" effect is a reality , myself already measure the same OU months ago , but unfortunately most ignore when i put the video show that apparently OU , in this same thread many posts ago .
The difference is that my work is not recognized because seems i don't understand nothing of electronics ;) and i not have any credibility in this community, and of course i did not make claims :) what seems Essential for some persons.
I put again the link of the video with the "apparently" COP above 1 
https://youtu.be/Te7NcDY-afQ?t=18

cheers

Nelson Rocha

PS- look to date of video ;)

Unfortunately your video shows very little in the way of correct power analysis method's--it has to be far better than that.


Brad

TinselKoala

The Partzman Bifilar Transformer  is not a Tesla Bifilar coil because its series connection is not connected, and the "input" winding is left floating at the end. It also is not operated at its resonant frequency. Further, it doesn't have to be a pancake coil, the effect can also be obtained with a solenoid coil properly wound.
So for those three reasons it probably does not belong in this thread.

But I'll post a little photo anyhow, just to keep the pot stirred.


ramset

While the effect has been noted in other coils

Partzman's work is mostly with Pancake coils in many configurations ,these have presented the best results to date.
there  has been all manner of testing and all manner of  serious work in other configurations ;
and yes it was found that resonance was to be avoided ,but not assumed to always be the case[as a definitive statement .

not certain of Tesla wind as this has been going on for many many years with all manner of attempts
but at the end of the day, Pancake coils are where Partzmans MEI work has focused .

yes this should be in its own thread here.

will see ?

respectfully
Chet K
ps
re Coils he has seen the effect with
Partzman quote
Below is a pix of some of the various coil arrangements I have used that all yield COP>1 except for one, that is the coil in the upper right hand corner.  Most are made with ribbon cable and the one sandwiched between the plexiglass is 3x 25 turns of 26 awg magnet wire and has produced >30 watts out in a 51 ohm load when driven with resonance on the input.

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