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A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1

Started by George1, January 28, 2019, 02:58:40 AM

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George1

Here is a copy (surrounded/limited up and down by double dashed lines) of my last post in besslerwheel.com/forum. The same topic, the same title.
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Let me explain again simple obviuos things. You are not reading carefully and thoroughly my posts and that's why you are distorting (either deliberately or not) my words.
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1) V x I x t = (I x I x R x t) + (Z x I x t x (HHV)) (1). This is the law of conservation of energy. Do you accept the validity of this item 1? YES OR NO?
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2) V = I x R (2). This is the Ohm's law. Do you accept the validity of this item 2? YES OR NO?
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3) If equality (1) is correct, then the inequalty V x I x t > (I x I x R x t) (3) must be correct too. Do you accept the validity of this item 3? YES OR NO?
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4) If we divide both sides of inequality (3) by (I x t), then we will get the inequality V > I x R (4). The latter is a severe violation of the Ohm's law and that is why it cannot be true. Do you accept the validity of this item 4? YES OR NO?
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5) Inequality (4) is directly related to (directly follows from) equality (1) and as inequality (4) cannot be true, then equality (1) cannot be true either. Do you accept the validity of this item 5? YES OR NO?
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You have to answer the question "YES OR NO?" five times.
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I am really shocked that I have to explain the basic axioms of electric engineering to people who pretend to be qualified. Tragedy!
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Floor

Quote from: Floor on November 22, 2020, 01:05:56 PM
Hello George 1

You started this topic on 01/28/19. 

   Here is your original statement / claim / bait.

https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/pages_1-6.pdf

Since that time (10 months), have you conducted and presented any
experiment which would support your claim that a simple electrolysis process
which results in H and O release is over unity, once the H and O
are then burned ?

Have you learned anything in those 10 months, from this topic?
If  so, what and will you share that with us ?

I for one, do not believe that you, your self, think this claim is O.U...

   floor

Floor

E / I x R,  but I x E = power as watts.

Ohms law applies to the transformation of amperage to heat (P = I x E)

Only in a theoretical PURELY resistive circuit is ALL of the electric energy transformed into heat.

If an electric circuit has a large magnetic component doing mechanical work (like a coil in a motor),
electric energy which would otherwise, have been transformed into heat, will be instead transformed into a magnetic force doing mechanical work.

quote from George1
"Ohm's law is not valid for liquid resistors"
end

Ohm's law IS valid for liquid resistors....
                but...
in a liquid resistor, where in, electrolysis also occurs, some of the input
electrical energy is used to cause the water splitting.  This is aside from
the electrical energy causing heat.

  best wishes
      floor

George1

To Floor.
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If there exist any energy Esw, which is necessary for splitting of water, then equality V x I x t = (I x I x R x t) + (Z x I x t x (HHV)) (1) must be transformed into
equalty  V x I x t = (I x I x R x t) + (Z x I x t x (HHV)) + (Esw)  (1A). But despite of this transformation inequality  V x I x t > I x I x R x t remains valid.

George1

To Floor.
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If there exist any energy Esw, which is necessary for splitting of water, then equality V x I x t = (I x I x R x t) + (Z x I x t x (HHV)) (1) must be transformed into
equality  V x I x t = (I x I x R x t) + (Z x I x t x (HHV)) + (Esw)  (1A). But despite of this transformation inequality  V x I x t > I x I x R x t remains valid.