Here is a link to HHO videos, I am just shocked that this method may be the best way to split water..
Acca...
A short video covering snippets of the test series and designed for those who do not have the time to dig deep and view the complete test presentations along with the other 25 subject videos presented by H2IL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrKURnM8GAY
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtal-Crd1YjA1i-IZ3TIGw/videos[/font]

To kolbacict.
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Hi kolbacict,
Hi dear colleague,
Please send to me, if possible, the exact link, (a) which contains "aboveunity" and (b) from which you get the information.

To Acca.
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Hi Acca,
Hi dear colleague,
1) Very, very interesting! Thanks a lot for your post. Need some time to consider everything carefully and understand it completely and thoroughly.
2) Do these guys sell such hydrogen-generating machines?

https://cloud.mail.ru/public/Vo2d/t6tJDu9mf

Acca,reading their https://www.h2innovativelab.com/  site,


we have to calculate :


$0,34/Kg hydrogen = only the metal price from the galvanic electrolytic process


to read :

A Coefficient of Production (CoP) well in excess of 100% means the output energy is much greater than the input power. Combining an internal energy harvested from low-cost, abundant galvanic metals priced at just $0.34 per Kg of hydrogen and are exchanged every 40 to 80 days.

+ 2 KWh electricity per Kg hydrogen


+ process enclosing chamber and technology costs

+ water ,1 Kg hydrogen from 9 Kg water
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+ developper/seller margin !


= total inclusing $1-1,5 per Kg hydrogen








same/similar price level for each Kg hydrogen


https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/117497.html


when 1 Kg hydrogen equates 33,3 KWh ,1$ production costs per Kg means 3 $cents/KWh costs




https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/hist/rngwhhdm.htm


net costs per KWh (1 MMBTU = 293 KWh ) + CO2-certificate  per ton CO2 costs !




https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=73&t=11


Pounds of CO2 emitted per million British thermal units (Btu) of energy for various fuels

Natural gas  117.0


117 pounds /293 KWh = 0.18 Kg CO2 per KWh shale/natural gas




https://ember-climate.org/data/carbon-price-viewer/



average 25 US$/ton              ( shall increase to fixed 55 Euros/ton or +- 60 US$/ton )


from 0,45 $cent/KWh             to 1,08 US$cents/KWh CO2-certification costs for natural/shale gas use




https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/117497.html


several different processes offering ,claimed results


a. it is USD 1.15/kgH2 and 11 kg CO2


b. It is USD 0.7/kg H2 and 5.5 kg CO2


c. = USD 0.35/kgH2 and 22 kg CO2.


d. It is USD 0.095/kg H2 being practically free, with 44 kg CO2 exhaust can be profitably utilized as in industry (e.g. for axalic acid production) as in agriculture for plants feeding.

or https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2020/nr/c9nr10552b#!divAbstract

e. such hydrogen can be less USD 0.5/kg without any CO2 exhaust.


f. = USD 1.3/kg H2 minus a cost of 3 kg of pure graphite being very valuable by-product.

                                                    https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/graphite-price-per-kg.html
                                                    ultra fine graphite powder : USD 0,45/Kg


              1,3          minus                                        3 x 0,45      =     "positive " production costs





d. and e.                     real      natural/shale gas         market concurrence !




d. USD 0,095 /33,3 KWh = USD 0,84 per MMBTU   shale gas price max ( included CO2 tax,actually USD 1,32 to USD 3,16 )

                                       means shale gas - CO2 tax = negative price

https://www.worldoil.com/news/2020/6/3/natural-gas-prices-could-go-negative-on-global-oversupply

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-natgas-waha-negative-idUSKCN1SS1GC
Waha averaged minus 40 cents per million British thermal units (mmBtu) for Wednesday. The last time Waha traded below zero was April 3 when it averaged a record low minus $4.28, according to data from Refinitiv.


e. USD 0,5     /33,3 KWh = USD 4,40 per MMBTU   shale gas price max (included CO2-tax,actually  USD 1,32 to USD 3,16)