@roshpere,

yea i do see a problem, possibly, maybe, kinda.  if you start trying to chase that diagram following the 124875 there dosn't seem to be any symetry either.  am i imagining this or, can you help me with understading this.  no disrespect intended.  i am just trying to find the right way also. just wondering. i know otto has said he has something similar to a rodin coil, so maybe, even if it was only inspired by rodins work and totally new, it has a magnetic field that he has never seen.  i am just wondering if the examples that were in the video are actually rodin coils.

i am having alot of trouble getting my mind around, how the drawing you showed in your last slide works.  i saw it on the vids, but, i still can't figure out how it fits the big picture.  if you know what i mean.  i'm sure marko, could explain it and make perfect sence of it real quick, but i am a little thick.  any help you can give, other than 3+6=9, would be appreciated, i am sure by all.

lol
sam

Quote from: supersam on November 03, 2007, 10:23:05 PM
@roshpere,

yea i do see a problem, possibly, maybe, kinda...

...any help you can give, other than 3+6=9, would be appreciated, i am sure by all.

lol
sam

@supersam,

Sorry, man, I can not connect the dots myself.  Play with a few spreadsheets.  I found that this 'repeating inverse sequence relationship' happens with numbers other than nine as well.  Were we to have been born with six digits per hand then I suppose that the number eleven would be all the rage.

The man in the video attempting to connect the number nine to answer the meaning of life, the universe, and everything is not the same man that made the coil; he says this one of the early video sequences.

When I wrote that, 36 = 3+6 = 9, I was only serious.  So far, this is the only type of connection that I can see.  (Keep in mind that I lack the intelligence to pick up what SM has put down.)  This is why I asked acerzw if he could show one example of a maths complexity that simplifies using Rodin maths; he seems to have a better insight into this aspect than me.

My current interest lies in replicating this coil configuration and then, "massaging it," with sine waves of various frequencies to see if I can find this magnetic vortex thingy.  If I can create it and detect it then I will be more interested in any connections existing between the coil and the new maths theory.

Coil Winding Update:  I backed off the 28 AWG wire, (and my intention to measure one closed path of wire.  I will find my yardstick if I get some results.)

I found, 'bol-wax,' instead of bee's wax and I picked-up some map pins while I was out, (to replace the resistors as dimensional placeholders.)

I used a fresh twenty-dollar, half-pound, spool of 24 AWG mag-wire.  I looped it around two fingers a few times for lead wire, then once around a green pin to anchor it for winding.

The light coating of wax that I placed on the ring before winding seems to help align the adjacent wires, allows them to be pulled tight, and provides a small amount of tackiness that helps keep past winds from pulling loose and slipping out of place.  Also, add a bit more wax when the winding is complete and any wires crossing over the foam form can be easily flattened out with a fingernail.

But, let me tell you, the feeling is like planting flowers; you just can not do it and stay clean.  Wax gets all over your hands, your working surface, and your clothes if you are not careful.  (I was not, but I had my old sweat pants on--the ones with the paint stains.)  It feels slick and sticky at the same time.  It gets all over your hands and it makes you feel like you need to shower right away.

I used the whole spool of wire and only covered slightly over a third of the surface.  So, if I do not want to buy another spool, I could finish with 22 AWG wire and have a, "Frankincoil?"

I have to take the skinheads bowling now.  More later.

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Later that evening...

I count 38 wraps of 24 AWG mag-wire.  That's 456 trips through the center of the ring for the spool.

I considered cutting it in half and using it as-is.  I decided, instead, to sink another twenty bucks into another half-pound of 24 AWG mag-wire.  I hope to acquire another spool tomorrow.

I am also considering picking up two, triple-series-AA-battery-holders, and six AA batteries to drive my function generator with more currant than I once did with a voltage-splitter-resistor-pair off a 9V.

But I am not powering up anything until I wind the second spool-o-wire. 

@Rosphere

That coil is a work of art! Can't wait to hear how it works!

BTW what film is your avatar taken from?

Acerzw

I now have another half-pound spool of 24 AWG mag-wire.

I know what section I wish to fill.  I know which direction I wish to fill that section.  The only thing that stumps me now is which way to wind the wire: with the flow of the fist section, or against it.

Up until now I had assumed that I would wind in the same direction as the first coil, as if I had just kept winding without a break between the two coils.  Now, I have the sudden urge to wind in the opposite direction.

Do not be confused by the geometry; I will continue the make the copper "spokes" grow fatter in the same fashion.  The direction the wires are wound, as compared to the first section of winding, will be unnoticed by humans, not electrons.  In other words, if I were to ground the two coils where they meet at one end, then the electrons moving in one coil will start off going up one side of the decorative foam ring while the electron moving in the other coil will start off going down.

It probably makes no difference which way I wind.  I can always switch the wire leads on one coil,... right?

Maybe not.  Maybe it does make a difference. 

Rosphere--inclined to unwind