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Overunity Machines Forum



Has anyone seen a better SMOT toy than this one?

Started by Cloxxki, May 17, 2023, 12:25:21 PM

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Willy

At first I thought it not very likely the balls could sink 180 out.
But upon thinking it through some more, if it works then why couldn't they
sink at 180 out ? So, I edited my previous post.
  But...
2. There is no reason why it should work, the energy present as attraction
peaks when a ball is nearest a magnet, both in approaching and in escaping.

3. The energy needed to pull or lift a ball up, to some specific height, is the same if along
a long ramp as if it is along a short ramp, either way.  All that counts is the height of the lifting.
The same applies to its falling / rolling down.

4. If this could work, there would be no need for a high point in the ramp at all.

5. If this could work the ball could be mounted upon a swinging arm and the magnets
placed around the outside circumference of its swing.  This does not work.

But I support anyone building experimenting, learning and sharing.

Willy

This is my own experimenting with what is essentially a linear variation
of a V gate design.

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https://overunity.com/15482/thin-magnetic-ramp-experiment/msg488092/#msg488092

Definitely it was worth building and playing around with.

kolbacict

Quote from: Cloxxki on May 17, 2023, 12:25:21 PM


My mind immediate goes to finding a way to curve the magnet (radially and vertically)
Flexible plastic magnets will help you. In modern motors, this is mainly. It can be tied in a knot.

sm0ky2

not sure how many of you were here during the Tri-Force catastrophe.


But if this works at all, one single gate will work
As he shows at the beginning.


This was HJ's first lesson as well, so this alone gives merit for at least an attempt at replication.


Clanzer was probably the closest to making one of these work
I hope he's alive and well out there somewhere


What i find interesting is the vertical orientation of the gate
This incorporates gravity in a unique way
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

sm0ky2

Things to consider:


Angle of incline on acceleration (towards center of magnet)


And angle of incline during deceleration


Also momentum at the center point to overcome the small incline
(longer horizontally, and more gradual vertical transition)
and if this is enough to overcome the reverse force that would
otherwise pull the ball back up the shorter distance (steeper vertical)



I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.