Well i have been out of the game for some time now, due to having to run my very busy business.
I have also been perfecting another device i designed and built some years ago.
I have since sold my business, and have gone into semi retirement, and so have a lot more time for such projects.

On that note, it is good to see some of the old crew still here- A BIG hi to Chet, it's been a while.
And good to see that bistander is here now--been looking forward to engaging with you.

I only came across the motoflux device last night, while laying in bed, watching youtube.
It came up in my youtube feed, and got me straight away. Needless to say, there was not much sleep last night, but more so lots of thinking of the mechanism of gain in said device.

I have spent the last 2 hours reading the whole thread, and i see that a couple here were on their way to a replication,
but nothing for the last two months ? Did everyone just give up ?

Anyway, it was an early start, with pen, paper, and my 20+ years building and learning how magnetic fields react in all sorts of
situations. After reading the thread, i don't think anyone has fully worked out the working principle of the motoflux device. Some have
come close, but there is more to it-so i believe.

And before i go on any further, yes, i have begun my replication, although on a smaller scale to start with.
But it will be large enough to see if there is any gain, which i believe there is.

First i see a lot of talk about the cogging in the device. I do not believe that this has any impact on the device delivering excess torque,
but more so just a result of the devices design.

Second- I see there is some concern about one of the graphs showing the output having torque before the device is set into motion.
I also do not think that is something that writes this device off, or that the inventor off set the output scale up to the shown value.
If the device was shut down while still having the brake applied, and was some way through a cycle, then a static torque very well could have been being applied to the output torque sensor before the device was fired back up.

I believe the critical point with this device working, is going the be the gap between the rotor poles, and the stator poles.
This will largely depend on your devices dimensions, magnets used, and type of steel used in the laminates.
With my replication, i will be able to adjust the gap between the rotor pole pieces, and the stator poles quite easily, as i think this is a must. The gap between the rotor pole pieces and the radial field director must be as close as possible, but at 90 deg, must be as far away as possible to obtain the best possible flux gap.

Well i think that is enough for my first post.
More to come soon.

Congrats on the business sale and retirement Tinman! Your input will be most interesting.|
The driving force behind the concept seems to have died out a bit at the source. Things have been less convincing than initially presented. The usual measurement deficiencies and adjustability to get the very best from the setup (last part is my guess).

Brad
So Glad to read...
Much more than a breath of fresh air!


With gratitude
Chet
PS
Word on the street is this one is a tuff nut
But not written off by any means!


And I believe inventor might even help ...( he is a good man)


BTW
I had to give up the Magnums...( almost
Those Carmel Dark chocolates still scream to me at the store ...

Quote from: Cloxxki on August 20, 2023, 12:21:14 PM
Congrats on the business sale and retirement Tinman! Your input will be most interesting.|
The driving force behind the concept seems to have died out a bit at the source. Things have been less convincing than initially presented. The usual measurement deficiencies and adjustability to get the very best from the setup (last part is my guess).

The fact that it has gone quite from the inventers side of things, could be good news.
If by some miracle you did actually have an !OU! device, what would be the best way to try and real it back in from the public, and keep it on the low down ? Maybe they got a big investor that would only invest in it if it were kept quiet, so as those like the chinese (who don't give a rats about patents) don't start mass producing it.

Knowing first hand that !some! of these !so called! laws of physics need re-evaluating, we should leave no stone unturned.
I have a good deal of time on my hands now, so i am going to get back into what i love.

Here is something to think about.
How can the conservation of energy and entropy (the degradation of the matter and energy), both exist in a closed or open system ?

Ok, a quick update.

Seems 3D printed parts are not going to cut the mustard here (well mine anyway).
To much flex, which is allowing the rotor to pull onto the stator.
So looks like more time will have to be spent machining parts from ali.