I was able to stay out for less that 10 mins... Brutal weather. anyways the circuit didnt work that well i think because i used different size caps didnt have 2 of the same as well i used ones in the 330uf to 550uf range and for the effect i think i need to try way smaller caps. It got up to .8 i arc'ed the caps to have  a little fun then i gave into the cold. More tomorrorw

(Quote from Hans) "If a flow of force is created by a primary system that creates a flow of force in a secondary system by resonance, the output in the secondary system can be magnified by levelling a flow of force of a different character and velocity perpendicular to it. The resultant output in the secondary system is then larger than the input from both flows.

This is a big statement for it describes perpetual motion."

Yes, it does.  Fantastic you finding this information for us, thanks.  What I don't understand, as you pointed out to me earlier, this speaks of primary and secondary systems such as in a coil arrangement and, as you said vdc does not benefit from that without the pulse being present.  I did some research on line for my own continuing education and, when looking for dc voltage amplifier circuits...all of them employ ic's that, yes, that's right, provide pulses!  So, my understanding now is that you can't use coils to amplify dc without it being pulsed, just like you stated.  In view of that, how does the above make any sense?  What did they know then that we, or at least me, don't/doesn't know now?

I also did some research on batteries in my textbooks on electronics and, once again , you were correct. (I never doubted you, I just wanted to learn this stuff for myself)  ALL modern car batteries are made from 1.5 vdc cells in series, which produce 12 vdc.  What I can't seem to find is, where do the amps come from?  I mean, a regular car battery has over 60 amps available. (not including "cranking" amps which are much higher numbers) I am getting over 1.6 vdc from one of my earth battery setups and still have not resolved the series hookup yet but, even when I do, how can I get the current up to par with car bats.?  I still feel this is somehow related to electrode surface area and I will invest in the materials required to prove/disprove this if I feel it has a decent chance of working.

In my above earlier post with today's results you can see that the amps were way up just using a large zinc spike in the ground with my carbon rod, but the vdc was also down a bit.  I guess I can try and array of multiple zinc spikes tied together and check the potential with the carbon rod then.  If you can think of any way to attempt to boost the volts and/or the amps here, please let me know.  Thanks again for all of your excellent research.

Bill

G'day Bill,

A galvanic cell produces about 1.5 V DC, if you want more Volt you have to have more cells. If you want to jack up the amperage you need larger cells, IE larger plates of dissimilar metals.

You are right, where does the AC or pulsed DC come from to create the secondary system.

This is at the moment still a puzzle for me, as I believe I mentioned in an earlier post.

I am far from being able to put a coherent analysis of the system together, I am just reporting what I find in the hope this will map out my next moves :-)

Hans von Lieven

Something I neglected to mention on my tree array data was the distance from the array to the carbon rod.  I just now went out and measured it (it is 25 degrees F) and it's 8.5 feet.  1.25 vdc is not bad considering the guys with the "tree" patent application were getting about half that.  How could this possible be galvanic when my nails were in wood, granted, a living tree with some moisture inside, but the other end of the circuit was 8.5 feet away???  This is very puzzling to me.  I encourage everyone out there to try it to see what they obtain.

Bill

can i ask wat the zinc coated screws are, ie the base metal that the zincs coated on woulkd this have an effect on any properties available?
regards
guys
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