Quote from: Localjoe on December 24, 2007, 01:22:16 AM
the potential we have as long as we dump it into a parallel cap bank should be enough to start oscillations in the micro tpu without stepping it up first.

So concept for usable power here is that we fill say 5 to 10  5v large farad number caps... 36000 mfd or higher and connect their terminals in parallel with the electrodes off the other end of the cap bank we would feed this micro tpu-  the output of this device should be enough to light a few led's while charging a battery... some of the folks in that fourm have led's running off of one cap and this device for over 2 hrs on a single charge to the cap...

We have a indefinite supply as opposed to this single charge so i see this as being the next goal

Hey Joe,
good work on the other thread. Whats a tpu? I didn't get too far on google, I will look some more but...

Would you be willing to draw this nice parallel circuit that gives oscillation? Are you talking astable multivibrator here? or a coil? I need to be studying  oscillators. some help would be great.

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Darn!!! I was hoping you would be able to tell me.

Well I'm gonna buy a carbon gouging stick. I'll try that.--Thanks George

So, earlier I was walking around with my meter and I tried this pebble thing I made. It gave me a wild reading up and down I could barely read it. I was reading just voltage. From 0.12v to 0.001 volts and up and down. It was crazy.

  A few minutes ago I was at a thread nobody seems to be looking at anymore about John Hutchison effect. There was some talk about his picking up dirt and hinting that he starts there.

Now, backing up some more, last summer I started to learn about sodium silicate and how this french man named Prof. Davidovits first dissolved  clay in NaCo3 and water then added crushed limestone and made limestone which hardened at normal temperatures and was indistinguishable from mined limestone. His research continued the work of Kuhlmann another frenchman from 1866 who coined the term "silicatize".

To silicatize something - kuhlmann started with a ball of clay- he painted it with sodium silicate (water glass).

I wasn't getting very far in my replication of making limestone when I read this so I painted some of my too crumbly not really limestone with this sodium silicate.  It dried shiny and hard. Kuhlmann added several coats. I only added 2.  It didn't seem to have much to do with earth batteries until today.

Hutchison I guess treats his rocks with high voltage as they are solidifying and they retain some charge.

I know this isn't really on our subject and I won't continue, but I thought you guys might be wanting this information so there it was.

jeanna

@ georgemay:

I used to buy from Mcmaster-Carr all the time.  I never thought of looking there for our materials.  Thank you for directing us to them.

@ Jeanna:

I have always said that Hutch is either a genius or an idiot and I have always leaned toward genius.  Interesting that he says in his videos that he has to "juice" the mix to get it going.  This sounds familiar.  Priming the pump again like some have done with their earth batteries.  I have not tried that yet...it is on my list.

@Localjoe:

I finally used two magnifying glasses and read the label on my cap.  0.22F and 5 volt.  .22 F is still large so I still think this is a supercap or ultra cap. (you have seen the small size of it) I would like to buy like 5 of these and wire them as you suggested.  I have not yet tried to see how long it will burn my led but I suspect it will be longer than 2 hours, and, with no added circuitry.  I will time it.
I mean, this thing has not been hooked to my outside cell for weeks and, when I connect the + wire to complete the circuit....still very bright.  I know this just means it holds it well but I will time the constant running of one led to see.

Bill

jenna where did you get the water glass? i want that for my sand batteries! (hutchison batteries)

im working on making a tesla coil now (not sure if i said this) i will be able to post some neat experiments in a few days. my verison of the tesla is the main conducting coil grounded to a single pole earth cell and the secondary (charging) coil hopefully will produce large currents. 

also on my list is to add a regular cell to charge the tesla and see how this effects things

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Led/capacitor test results:

2:18 p.m.  I connected the led to the small cap. after charging the cap. on the cell outside for about 20 minutes.  I let it burn on my bookshelf inside to see how long it will stay illuminated.

3:20 p.m.  Led is still lit but growing very faint as I type this. I can still see it in the dark.  It was what I would call bright for well over 45 minutes.  This was just with my one cap. (5v .22f)  I wonder what would happen with 5 connected together as Joe suggested?

Tomorrow, I might give a few ideas of mine a go outside on the cell.  If anything interesting happens I will post a video.

Bill