Quote from: Pirate88179 on December 25, 2007, 05:09:06 PM
So, I am sitting there still not knowing how or why this type of series setup is not working when I get an idea. 

Hi Bill,

I did experiments a couple of years ago with electrodes in soil and was frustrated by the fact that I could not get series circuit to work.

What you've got is a common medium so there is no way to setup a series circuit. You have to isolate the medium in one segment from the other.

I also plotted voltage over 500' foot straight line runs sampling voltage every 10 feet with reference to one point and observed reversal in polarities occasionally. If I'm remembering correctly it turned out the clay will cause a reversal of polarity which is interesting.

I mainly used copper clad welding rods and zinc coated rods in the experiments. I also tried 30oz  copper plates 15" x 15".

I think if you run your electrodes east and west you will observe something interesting. I believe that the west electrode will always give you a positive polarity (I may not be remembering the correctly).

I also ran across a fairly extensive study pertaining to mapping polarity of regions of the earth. I'll try to find it and send it your way (not at my computer at the moment).


-Duff

@ pese
   Thanks but we posted that link in the thread earlier somewhere. There is some great info there if anyone hasn't seen it. As well the modulated earth current and using it as a carrier is a great idea were just not there yet . All with good time thanks again and merry christmas
                                                                                                               joe

Quote from: duff on December 25, 2007, 07:47:50 PM

What you've got is a common medium so there is no way to setup a series circuit. You have to isolate the medium in one segment from the other.[
-Duff

Sorry Duff,

but this is not correct. In your typical 12 V car battery you have several galvanic cells in series sitting in a common electrolyte. This is not where your problem is.

Hans von Lieven

@hans: great work on your last post!  It's nice to see various technologies using similar concepts, and gives hope to me that we will get to the bottom of it.

I had a thought about the faraday disk - I think the disc itself is made of copper.  When there is a changing magnetic field then a current is generated.  By rotating the disc there is a changing magnetic field because the outer rim is spinning faster than the inner rim and the whole thing is rotating so even though there would probably be no torque we'd still get current.  I remember reading that the faraday disc gave huge amounts of current and about .6 volts (actually, that's the N machine, but isn't the concept similar?)

@ Joe:

The high meter reading (2.19vdc) was taken just after I charged the right cell with the 9 volt battery.  I disonnected the battery and then took that reading.  Do you think the 12 volt side of the car battery charger is worth a try?  I.m sure I'll be back to better regular reading once I get another magnesium block.

@Duff:

Thanks for the info.  I look forward to getting the other information as well.

@Hans:

That is an excellent point about the 12 volt car battery.  I know you have mentioned that before.  So, knowing you are correct on that, can you think of any reason that I can't get this series setup to work over here?  I am simply tieing the two plus carbon rods together and then the two minus zinc spikes together and the meter reading is LESS than either cell alone. I am taking the reading from a lead off of each + and minus side after they are connected together.  I am totally stumped by this.  It should be reading in the 3 volt range with the two cells.  I am still not done reading your post but I am amazed on what I have read thus far.  Excellent research!

Bill