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Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

Started by Localjoe, October 19, 2007, 02:42:39 PM

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sid10

#455
December 25, 2007, 09:47:01 PM
another cajun question, a car battery has 6 cells in series to give 12 volts,but when you check the level of water in the battery it can be lower in one cell than it's neighbor. wouldn't this say that it's not a common electrolite?
sid
The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.

sid10

#456
December 25, 2007, 10:00:15 PM
I was showing everyone at the Christmas get together how a earth battery works and got a reading of 1.2 volts at 1 amp on one of hte test sites. This was about 100 feet from a power line in my inlaws front yard, really wet ground.
If the any button works there should be a picture of my meter there showing the position for reading amps? as well as showing position for reading DC volts.
The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.

hansvonlieven

#457
December 25, 2007, 10:00:31 PM
Quote from: duff on December 25, 2007, 09:45:12 PM

Are you sure about that Hans? -

You pop the cap on a cell and check the fluid level or measure density level with a hydrometer  of individual cells....

-Duff

The reason why you top up each cell as it were is that the separators are microporous and it would take a long time for the fluid to fill the entire battery if you only topped up one. The reason for the porous separators is  to stop particles building up in one section of the battery and shorting it. The electrolyte is common to all.



Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Bruce_TPU

#458
December 25, 2007, 10:01:57 PM
@ Bill

Nice experiments!  Hans is correct about wiring in series.  I have read the entire thread, start to finish, and my number one question was why no one has attempted to wire in series for more voltage and parallel for more amperage...after all, the ground it the limit!   ;D  I also think that anyone testing this should indeed use a full bridge rectifier to measure the output.

Now, if it does not allow you to wire in series or parallel, as Duff suggested in his last post, It would make me think "ocean".  For example, an ocean battery with say zinc and the other electrode of carbon, will also give a small voltage.  But if you put another one next to it and attempt to wire in series it will not work.  Now, if you take an egg carton, place small holes into each of the egg holders, add a small sponge and place each electrode in it's own cell, then it will work just fine.  The whole point is there still may need to be designed a way to individualize each earth cell.

Also, another thought I have, is after looking at the patents through the thread, the ones that actually seemed to draw real power from the earth all seemed to do so through induction.  Perhaps wrapping a coil or even ferrite or iron core, and tapping off of that with a secondary and see if the output is any different, would be a useful experiment.

Anywho, I am on holiday with the family until after the first of the year.  The first thing that I will do when I return home, is to make my micro TPU self run forever, using a ground battery.  It has me very excited.  I am waiting on Litz wire to wind a SM TPU, and this will keep me occupied until it's arrival. 

Has anyone tried simple wire, instead of rods?  If it is a function of surface area, which still needs to be proved IMHO by more experiments, then using bundled copper wire and bundled carbon or zinc would would give you MUCH greater surface area, than one large piece.  Again, here, think of bubbles.  One large bubble verses five small bubbles that fit inside the big bubble, which has the greater surface area?  The small bubbles.  If you used a bundle of copper wire, tied together and placed into the hole the surface would be larger.  Of course, if you can find a way to wire in series or parallel, or both, that is the way to go.  If it does not allow you to, find the distance you would have to go to do so.  That too would be interesting.

P.S.  If it is a function of surface area and you prove this beyond doubt, I would suggest using nano particles.  These come in zinc or nickel and the company can bake it onto metal objects, pipes, plates, etc.  Anywho, these can give you the surface area of several hundred yards on one square foot of material.  Just a thought towards the future.  Your carbon rod should already have incredible surface area, by its very nature.  You may want to take a gander at a little piece under a microscope, if you have one and see what its surface looks like.

Well, Merry Christmas, and thanks localjoe for the idea.  I am itching to return home and hook this to my oscillator!    ;)

Keep experimenting!

Bruce 
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

sid10

#459
December 25, 2007, 10:03:45 PM
darn any button!
The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
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