We most certainly would like to see your pics mramos so we can compare to our setups. Who said we wouldn't want to see them? Any insight or help is always welcome so if you have a chance post your pics and setup. Thanks
                                                                                                  Joe

G'day Ladies & gentlemen,
                                          I came across this thread prior to Christmas and it has taken some time to read in it's interity. The numerous links and downloads did not help, especially when one only has dial up 

@Cub... how would you like me to respond to that?

mramos:

I know the power is low, thus far.  Thanks for the info on the different styles of meters being the same.  That is information we did not have to this point.  My led, single is as bright or possibly more bright than one of those keychain led lights.  Now, with 2 leds, no, not as bright but, the funny thing is that I can short the cap (discharge) and light 1 or 2 leds and the cap charges, or seems to and lights the leds at the same time.  After running them a while, I can remove the circuit and carry it into the house and it will still light 1 led very bright (in my opinion) for about 45 minutes off of the cap. alone.  It will continue to light for over an hour but, very dim at this point.  That is using a small supercap that is the size of a hearing aid battery.  I am amazed at this.  I am also amazed that you can pump volts into the ground with a battery and, for a while anyway, continue to get a much higher voltage reading off the cell/s.  I was telling a friend of mine about this experiment, which I saw as a failure, and he, who had worked for 20 years at IBM repairing computers and office equipment, said that the ground should never hold any energy like that.  So, I may continue with my attempt to dump amps as well as volts into the cell using my car battery charger.  He said the cell was working like a capacitor and this should not be at all. (my cap circuit was not involved in this experiment)  He thinks this is more interesting than lighting a few leds for a while.  What do you think?  and yes, please post any and all of your information here.  You are working in sandy soil which might mean what?  Who knows.  the pyramid people are using sand in their cells along with graphite/carbon to produce free electricity.  And the angles that Bruce posted, I have already been using, since I read about it in the begining of this topic.  I can't really say if it helped as I started out doing it that way.  I did really enjoy the NOAH link he posted, that is a great tool. My personal opinion is that we all need to max out the volts and the amps the best we can and then, we can move on to coils, tpus, and who knows what else? I respect ANYONE who is out there trying stuff.  I think we all do. We need all the help we can get and I would value your input on this project as I know others would as well.  Did you get a chance to read any of the Stubblefield stuff from way back?  There were a few references to how he was operating numerous arc lights, a telephone system and heating his house all from earth batteries.  Is this fantasy or bad history?  Possibly...who knows.  I just like it because it's easy/cheap to replicate...fairly easy to get better results by tweaking, and I don't think anyone knows were this might end up.  Have you tried the tree experiment yet?  If you have a decent sized tree, you should be able to get about 1.25 vdc from that to a ground.  Come to think of it, I don't believe I ever checked the amps on that one myself.  OK, another item on my list.

My point of the original post I made to you was that I feel it is too early to draw any conclusions as of yet.  Jeanna is out there experimenting her butt off in the cold.  Who knows what she will discover.  Anyway, I hope to see your pictures and results of your tests.  Thanks.

Bill

welcome cub. Are you joining us in this grounding adventure?

I agree with joe

QuoteWe most certainly would like to see your pics mramos

Thanks for the confidence, Bill, I was feeling discouraged today.

I'm not sure if I want to buy red laquer and paint those pipes. especially if mramos did it just right and got nothing. I am thinking hard about caps in parallel and series and adding inductors to the trip.

I put together a circuit like Bill's this evening. It is amazing how well it works. No, I don't get the time Bill gets but there is no resistor on this setup I'm trying just a green led and 3 volts and that double supercap. I ordered a single one and I will see if that works when it gets here. Somewhere I think there is a way to make a loop of some sort that circles around and gets bigger. It can be fed each time by the earth battery and just grow steadily. It's what my mind is doing.

I will look away for a while (read a book about something else) sometimes that works best.

jeanna