Quote from: btentzer on January 05, 2008, 08:45:01 PM
@ Bill

That looks like a great idea to try.  I look forward to hearing the results.

While waiting on my magnesium and carbon rod, I tried several experiments today.

I tried using a carpenters pencil, sharpened at both ends as one electrode, and a zinc nail for my other electrode.  The reading was 750 mv.  No ma.  Zero!

Bruce

Did you try wetting the ground around the metals?  I believe water might be responsible for the current, while the soil acts as a capacitor.  In the pics you posted, the soil seems very dry, while Bill's soil seems moist.

Bill, you can also try to power alarm clocks or digital clocks, as they take small current.  Ive managed to power a small digital alarm clock by 4 of my plate cells in series.  The clock I'm using uses two AA's in series (3volts).

@ Bill
I was setup polar North and South.  When you checked your amperage, did you simply connect the leads to your voltmeter and turn to ma's? 

I was disappointed that all I got were zero's.  I spent a number of hours working on this.  I will try again tomorrow.

How deep are your electrodes in the ground?

@ Freezer
My ground was moist already.  And I posted no pictures today.  Nothing worth taking a picture of. 


I need some amperage.  I will try a new spot tomorrow.

Bruce

Quote from: btentzer on January 05, 2008, 10:28:32 PM
@ Freezer
My ground was moist already.  And I posted no pictures today.  Nothing worth taking a picture of. 
Bruce

Ah, I was thinking of mramos's pics, sry.  The dirt in his pictures seem bone dry.  Maybe its soil content?

@ Freezer:

Yes, my soil is moist now, been raining for a few days prior, but, I get much better results in dry soil.  I have read that others do the same.  A lot of variables here though.  Excellent job that you can run an alarm clock!  2 aa bats are 3 volts like you said and a bunch of mAs.

@ Bruce:

My now cut in half carbon rod(s) are 8.5 " long and are in the soil 8.2" each. The mag. blocks being only 3" long to begin with are in the soil all but the last 1/4" or so.  Yes, I used the dvm first checking volts dc, then ac, then mA.  I have also checked several set-ups with an analog meter but no longer do that as they match on every test.  One thing about water, I have notice when I move around my electrodes or burry some new device is that, after it rains, and dries out a bit, the results get better and better.  I believe this to be the result of the rain washing the dirt into place around the new device and compacting it a little and maybe, making a better connection, for lack of a better word.  So, I don't think it would hurt anything to dump a bit of water around any new installation to help it settle and become part of the earth.  I cannot prove this but I think it is true.  Possibly, charging the earth cell accomplishes a similar effect?  All I know is that I would have a heck of a time attempting to remove my electrodes now after our rain here over the past few weeks and the drying period after. I would have to dig them up as opposed to just pulling them up.  When I first started using Joe's method, smal screw and copper pipe, I did not get any mA either.  When my carbon rod showed up, that changed.  then, magnesium...etc.  If we start using coils, I believe we will see everything go up.  don't forget, if you look back at the Stubblefield patents and photos posted a long time ago, his "cells" were pretty large and contained massive amounts of metal windings.

Bill

Hi Group
This is today's report
After stripping and sanding the copper off my 4 carbon rods I stuck them as a group pushed together (impatience) into the N end of my EBatt spot. I used the Mg fire brick at the S neg.
(BTW the clips kept falling off and I was keeping the leads off the wet ground so I couldn't juggle changing the meter all the time to read vac.)
This gave me
Mg-  4 C rods+                 =1.67Vdc       
Mg-   C filter granules in a cement pot +   1.76vdc  **

then I tried some knowns for controls and they were a little low
Mg-   Cu pipe+                 =0.6vdc
Mg-   Graphite pencil+    =1.53vdc

** this is 0.12vdc higher than the other way I had done it with the granules in a paper tube in the ground. That was 1.55vdc  - I may be seeing the cement getting charged. (The very first reading using cement pots was zero, then there was a little. )

Then I soldered one of the Carbon rods to a copper wire well tinned.
Mg-   C rod+    1.43v

Then I soldered 3 more and made a soldered group of 4 carbon rods
Mg-   4Crods soldered+   = 1.56vdc and 2.4vac  hmm that is a lot of volts ac is it not?


I had my LED in my teeth ready to slip into line but there was no point. I was dissapointed.
After I disassembled everything I realized the Mg was attached at a copper wire which I never trusted and I should have had it clipped to the block itself. So, there is a little more hope for improved scores yet. In fact the controls were pretty low.

jeanna