any number of turns seems to work, i would use close to ten or more tho.

i did some studies, the coil itself cannot tap any usable electrical magnetic energy flowing through the steel pipe when the steel pipe is in earth battery series, however when the steel rod is the onyl thing used i can get 1 miliamp AC at .005 to .05 volts! interesting isnt it?

i tried my one pole isolated and lower than the positive and that generated the same results i have been getting .5v at .1 miliamp.

i noticed when you close the battery and let it run short curcuit it seems to build energy?

later.

Quote from: Artic_Knight on January 06, 2008, 04:44:26 PM
any number of turns seems to work, i would use close to ten or more tho.

Thanks for the number.
I guess this is where the tuning thing happens. Maybe there is a sudden rise with the right number of turns? Is this how to tune?

Quotei noticed when you close the battery and let it run short curcuit it seems to build energy?

So you have this rod with coils and you are using it as a single probe that is part of a + - battery? I am unsure of this theory, I guess. The joule thief uses this coil wound magnet as a transformer but all of a piece. Not separated into primary and secondary. I assume this is related to what you are doing, but you are only using one coil, I spose it is a primary. And it is in a straight line. Why should it transform anything? I thought the transforming part of the toroid was its shape, the secondary is just a part of it.
I am sorry if I am being a pest, I want to understand this, because I think the toroid and winding the magnet and a few other things are important, here.

jeanna

i took an iron rod and wound a coil around it ive used 2 different numbers of turns that doesnt seem to matter, the wire is insulated so it doesnt make electrical contact, really theres no math no tuneing just wrap a wire around it and go, its so simple its silly!  theres no tricks or nothing

@ Artic Knight:

Are you saying that I can take one of my carbon rods and wrap it with wire and, by itself, no other electrode, will produce some good power? I purchased three spools of bare copper wire today (25' ea.) but you are using insulated wire correct?  Did you say the wrappings do NOT go into the earth but are on top?  I am in the process of winding my zinc rods for the magnesium blcok and zinc assembly.  I was planning on using this as the minus and tieing into the carbon rods for the positive.  But, if I understand you correctly, a wire coiled around a steel rod is a cell in and of itself then?

Sorry for all of the questions.  Hey, if your wife gives you any more trouble, sign her on here and we can tell her how important this work really is. Heck, we can have Jeanna and Hans talk to her. (smile)  but, I am divorced (14 years) so don't take any relationship advice from me.

If what you are showing works for us all then, I believe we could plant a bunch of these as there would be no conflict as they seem to be stand alone cells.

@ Bruce:

Congratulations!  You appear to have solved the series mystery.  I never thought of trying it that way.  Excellent job! With all of the creativity on here, we should be able to produce some interesting results.  What do you think of Artic Knight's approach?  I will await his answers then maybe change course here and try a zinc rod with some windings.

Bill

@Arctic_Night:  Glad you are also excited about faraday! :-)  Your idea about the coils is not entirely clear to me, but I think the key here is the difference in height between the probes in the ground.  Once we prove there is a current (I would almost use the same material, 2 copper electrodes) then we can see about resonating a coil.
Can't experiment yet, broke my arm and have 1 hand otherwise I'd be trying this out.

Uh, you said 1 AMP at .005 AC - is that correct?  Please clarify because that is very important...