oh i found out why i was pulling 2 miliamp with my aluminum and iron! i accidentally stabbed a root of a tree with both.....  not sure if thats going to help our earth batteries or not.  i think its particularly funny that we get 2 miliam voltage from a tree yet i cannot get any miliamp from myself?

what would happen if we put a giant copper coil around a tree! it has current right? maybe its getting its current from the radio bands in the area and grounding it, after all some radio bands dont pass through water and thus vegitation!  heh this is wierd.

Hi everyone,

Here is what I did today. BTW the ground and all its water is frozen today.

I took a 12 " long 3/8" diameter iron spike.(steel?) I wrapped it with 8 feet of wire bifilar style with bare iron wire and insulated copper wire. I attached the top end of the iron coil to the bottom end of the copper wire using a separate copper wire going straight down the nail.This left me with an iron wire at the top of the winding and a copper wire at the bottom. I stuck a magnet onto the head of the nail. I also had a second 12" nail and magnet with me.

Outside, I got zero from most readings. These are the readings.:
I placed the wound nail in the E-W trough I made the other day so the telluric currents should be passing perpendicularly to this coiled nail. - zero between the 2 free wires on the nail and .2vdc between the wound nail (probe touching the nail itself) and a copper pipe in the ground.

Then, I stuck the wound nail into a hole in the ground (well first I stuck the other nail with its magnet into the hole then I propped the wound one on top of that) and checked wound coil again with the copper pipe. zero vdc, vac

I have left the cement pots outside in place with their electrodes in place. I checked them again today. the 3rd pot seems to be getting charged.

I decided that the frozen ground cannot respond or maybe it is the meter that cannot respond. I got very low readings on everything. The highest reading (almost normal 0.65vdc) was using that last pot so, I think it is charged and the next time the weather warms up and the ground dries up, I may see something from these cement pots.

Just so you are with me on this cement pot thing. I have already mentioned that I wanted to have something in the earth that is effected by the currents of the earth but that is separated from being in the same "sea" as the next set of electrodes. Bruce did this by moving away 30 inches, I was looking to do this with this other separate yet connected container.

There is another reason. It is more a hunch and less easy to articulate, but Sand in a glass inside gave me a reading of 0.05vdc (maybe higher) which grew then diminished. It was very active over about 2 hours. I think there is much electrical potential (pun- I mean it both ways) available in sand. The cement is charging and this puts it into a possible petrovoltaic category. I am looking at that too while I am doing this.

So, I basically think it is too cold to tell. The things that showed voltage the other day did not today or the voltage was down. I will try this again.

Since I have this spike wound I will keep it that way and I will take suggestions from you.

One more thing. I don't understand this. Inside before I started I waved  a magnet back and forth along the length of this wound nail, and I also got nothing. I think I really don't know how to connect the wires in this thing, Shouldn't I have seen something from that?

jeanna

jeanna,

could you please supply a drawing or rough sketch of how you wound your spike.
also by have one wire of the coil insulated you are ruling out any galvanic effect, was that your intention?

Kind regards   Ian

Good Thread, very interesting read.

- Schpankme

Quote from: ian middleton on January 16, 2008, 07:22:39 PM
jeanna,

could you please supply a drawing or rough sketch of how you wound your spike.
also by have one wire of the coil insulated you are ruling out any galvanic effect, was that your intention?

Kind regards   Ian

Very rough very quick. Please see drawing below.

Yes, Ian, this was the idea. Also, I am pretty sure the Stubblefield patent went into some description of how one of the wires was wrapped in cotton cloth to separate it. I just used stranded insulated copper wire at close to the same gauge as the Fe wire, so they would come out close to the same number of windings. The insulation added a bit of girth to the cu wire so there was enough for 3 more times around with the fe wire, but I wound it just so the same length of wire was on the nail and wound.