@ Dr. Stiffler:

"but alas there are no current channels. It is not that simple, and what is available will not power a home, unless you own a many thousand acres."

The above is quoted from one of your posts.  As I posted earlier, I respect your work on your resonant circuits and welcomed you to this topic.  If you had read any of the earlier posts relating to Stubblefield and his results back at the turn of the century, you would have not said what I have quoted above.  Stubblefield DID power his home.  He also operated a phone system for Murry, Kentucky using only his earth cells.  He, reportedly, operated over 50 arc lamps and HEATED his house, all from his cells.  Granted, the power requirements for a home back then was way less than now, BUT, we also have access to things Mr. Stubblefield never dreamed of....transistors, ics, leds, circuit boards, etc.  And, hopefully, more knowledge of the way things work.  He did not use thousands of acres to do this.  If you read any of the scientific papers posted previously, you would see that that is not required.  There is great power in the earth and, just because we can only light 3 leds from it at this time does not mean that is all that can be done.  We can light these leds forever, as far as I know, ant No cost.  Not much I agree, but something nevertheless.  In time, I believe we will be able to replicate Mr. Stubblefield's work and perhaps, surpass it.  There are countless newspaper accounts of his working devices and their power if you care to read them.

I am in no way slamming you.  I am just suggesting that before you post "absolutes" you read what has been posted prior to your comments first.

@ mramos:

Same thing.  Read above response.  Thank you.

@ All:

Keep up the great work.  I will be back experimenting and posting soon, I hope.

Bill

@Rstiffler

To be frank .. I started this thread and I never asked for your help... when i welcomed it you never responded to me and now because Jenna has said something that made you uncomfortable you assume thats the view of all here. I assumed you were an adult, and well those comments you made were kinda rude and unthoughtful.  If something is bothering you in life you should make sure to resolve it and not let it flow into other avenues of your life... Thats how this happens most of the time.  Thanks for your time
                                                                                                                      Joe

Now thats what I call a lunch box. 

Quote from: RStiffler on January 10, 2008, 03:09:13 PM
I have been watching this thread for some time and have a 1/2 cents worth of comment.

You are trying to intercept some current flowing in the earth? Hopefully not trying to make an earth battery as a Lemon or Potato will work better. Okay you are looking to capture some current in the earth so how would one go about it?

Electrode type should not be an issue (if you are capturing and not creating) a current. So maybe forget the electrode type problem. Except for DC do not all currents have frequency? Indeed they do, and that would present the concept of wavelength (how far to space the electrodes). But is not the earth somewhat like the human body?, a mass of currents flowing in all directions from synapse to synapse? Yes indeed you can place a voltmeter (sensitive) across any two area's of the body and measure a current, but it is only a very small current as each individual current flows in a different direction and many cancel, yes some add.

So what am I saying? Why not forget the DC concept, look only into varying currents. Now we still have the wavelength issue, but what about building a coil with a variable capacitor and placing it in the earth on a plastic pipe handle so it can be rotated. This would allow the coil to be turned and pickup the best of the tuned earths variable waves.

Look at it this way, if a home has a connection to the grid, currents flow from the home out in all directions to find the least resistance path back to the generator. They mix with other currents, add and subtract, often cancel, but spots are found where they are very large. Now you pay for current flowing into your home thought the meter, used in the devices you use, and out through a ground (neutral) connection. Once past the meter what you pick up is free :-). So from every home for example flows free energy, just waiting to be tapped with the right coil and capacitor.

A little thought gives an answer here. Use what you have, forget the Lemon and Potato, if you pull 200amp through your home, you expel 200amp, where?

versus:

Quote from: RStiffler on January 18, 2008, 03:10:20 PM
When I offered my 1/2 cent worth I received a reply that I was welcome if I came bearing gifts, well I must come back one more time with the gift of learning A teacher can not force one learn, a teacher can not love one to learn and worst of all a teacher can not impart knowledge by reward. Knowledge is not a commodity, it is rather a unique thing to every individual, no matter what one invests, the only thing that counts is inner desire and dedication.

Okay enough of the rebuke of my initial offer, here is my second and last post here, take it for what you wish.

If the earth had massive currents flowing through it that you could capture (in the magnitude you desire) why would not every worm, mole and bacterium surface?? Have any of you ever placed a couple of rods in the earth to cause the night crawlers to surface?? If you get in the right area all kinds of things surface. So what?? Hey if there were current channels flowing that all you had to do was tap the pipe and plug your house into, I would have been there years ago, but alas there are no current channels. It is not that simple, and what is available will not power a home, unless you own a many thousand acres. If you have that kind of resource you can do better by running a pair of wires in a big circle above ground (no transposition) and will get far greater 'Energy'. Hey I wish, boy if it were so simple, 'Plug into your yard'.

YES! I am being negative, yes I am saying there is nothing to your approach, hey just see the feedback I get!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God love you all and keep at it, I have been wrong more than I have been right.........

Bit of a contradiction here wouldn't you say?

Hans von Lieven

G'day all,

Back to business. I have been re-reading some of the work of Prof. Dr. Eng. Jan Pajak. In some ways the guy is an absolute nutter. He believes the Tsunami and Hurricane Katrina were manufactured events, he sees evil forces and Changelings everywhere etc. etc.

Nevertheless, when he talks about technical matters he appears to have profound knowledge about a lot of things.

This is an article I feel you should read, it contains a number of interesting ideas that are of relevance here.

Hans von Lieven

                    The reversal of friction:


       In 1924 the great French physicist, Louis DeBroglie, published his important discovery, which is sometimes called the "principle of the symmetry of nature". According to this principle, in our universe everything is strikingly symmetrical in many ways. DeBroglie's symmetry principle provided philosophical and scientific foundations, which allow us to understand a number of natural phenomena, thus opening them for explorations, discoveries, formulation of new theories, completion of new devices, etc. For example: the Periodic Table of the Elements (also called the Mendel?ev Table), the existence of a mirror duplicate for each elementary particle (e.g. electrons and positrons, protons and antiprotons), and the similarities between atoms and solar systems - all these document the symmetry existing in the structure of matter. The similarities between equations that describe different physical phenomena (e.g. Navier-Stock's equation describing flow of fluids and Laplace's equation describing heat transfer) express symmetry in the laws of nature. In turn the technological correspondence between e.g. pumps and hydraulic motors, or electricity generators and electric motors, reflect the symmetry in the operation of technical devices.

       One of the vital implications of the DeBroglie's symmetry, which has a direct bearing on the creation of free energy devices, is the postulate that "every phenomenon must have a corresponding counter-phenomenon". So far a large number of phenomena and corresponding counter-phenomena has already been discovered, which confirm the correctness of this postulate. For example, the existence of electrical luminescence utilized in fluorescent bulbs and in various light-emitting diodes to transform electricity into light, has a counter-phenomenon in the form of the photoelectric effect that in photocells and solar panels transforms light into electricity. The so-called "left-hand rule", also called the "motor effect", which describes phenomena used for the transformation of electricity into motion, has its counter-rule in the form of "Fleming's right-hand rule", also called the "generator effect", which works in reverse, i.e. it transforms motion into electricity. The Seebeck Effect, which produces a flow of electrons through a junction of two dissimilar conductors being heated, has its counter-phenomenon in the form of the Peltier Effect, which causes the heating and cooling of materials in a similar junction when a current is flowed through it. The piezoelectric effect, which converts the deformation of a crystal into electricity, and which is utilised e.g. in piezoelectric lighters to produce an igniting spark, has its counter-partner in a phenomenon which also is called "piezoelectric effect", although it works in a reversed manner - i.e. it converts the electric impulse into a deformation of a crystal (this counter-phenomenon is utilised for example in piezoelectric vibration generators).

       However, contemporary orthodox physicists claim that there is an exception to this postulate. They indicate friction to be this exception. According to all to-date claims of orthodox scientists, friction is considered to be the irreversible phenomenon, which has no counter-phenomenon. But in 1985, due to the formulation of a new scientific theory which I named the Concept of Dipolar Gravity, I was granted the privilege of discovering the phenomenon which represents an exact reversal of friction. Because in the natural form this phenomenon is manifested during telekinetic (or psychokinetic) motion, I named it the "Telekinetic Effect". In the same way as friction spontaneously converts motion into heat, the Telekinetic Effect spontaneously converts heat into motion. Not long after the Telekinetic Effect was discovered, I also managed to found technical ways of releasing it (through an acceleration or deceleration of magnetic field force lines).

       The discovery, that the Telekinetic Effect represents a reversal of friction, and a subsequent discovery of the technological ways of activating this effect, provide the theoretical foundation for building various free energy devices. The reason for this is, that according to the mechanism of the effect discussed here, all what is required in order to generate such free electricity, is to subject a section of an electric wire to the action of such an effect. In the result, all free electrons that are contained in such a wire, are going to be put into the telekinetic motion from one end of the wire to the other end. In turn such a mass relocation of electrons in a wire, is nothing else but a flow of electric current. The thermal energy that sustains this flow originates from the environment, from which it is spontaneously extracted by the mechanism of the reversal of friction. The Telekinetic Effect is spontaneously extracting this energy from the environment just on its own. So this energy does not need to be supplied to the device which generates the free electricity (i.e. hence the expression "free energy").