Quote from: MrSpates on January 22, 2008, 02:26:40 PM
How would you isolate the cells? The electrode has to be touching the earth doesn't it? so anything you covered the electrode with would have to be nonconducting and thereby blocking the flow of electricity to the electrode. I saw on one website where someone painted the copper pipe with red lacquer and placed the zinc inside the pipe. I don't know how the zinc was held in the pipe wheather it was touching the pipe or not. I tried holding the zinc first hanging it then touching it and got no reading at all. How can the current flow through paint or maybe plastic without shorting out everything else or can it? The guy claimed 1.5 volts per cell with his set up.

Welcome, MrSpates,
You have just summed it up.
I went after this problem by making something that could be in the ground and yet be kind of separated from the exact soil that makes the whole thing become one cell again (or cells in parallel- sort of) I made cement pots that can be at a close distance to the other pots. In series there is an additive effect, but they need to be charged I think. I got double my first reading from the first added cell. What I must do with these is keep them in the same place in the earth. They charge up, but if I move them around they lose their charge. Freezer, (I think) is making cells separated by 30 inches to get the series effect.
I don't and I think many on this thread don't want to be making a galvanc jar out of the soil. I think we are seeing something that is very different from what we thought we would find when we started. It is very intriguing.
You seem to have good soil. Bill is the only other one here (I think the only one) that can get 1.3v from Cu and Zn. (I get from 0.9v-1.1v)

Anyway, we have a lot of fun in this thread. Please try some things and let us know of your failures as well as your successes - as you have today- and...

Maybe if you got a Mg fire brick and graphite rod like Bill, you could light a LED too.

jeanna

Quote from: Freezer on January 22, 2008, 01:46:47 PM
Looking more at Stubblefields cell, I noticed he has wrapped his iron and copper windings in a tesla coil type fashion in the horizontal plane.  I think he was creating a decent rotating magnetic field, which is run by magnetic earth current.  My next cell when I get enough money will be to wrap windings in this way and see what it does. 

Freezer,
Could you explain this again to me? Or can you make a drawing? (with mouse, or on paper then scan it onto your comp?)
this part especially, In the tesla coil type fashion in the horizontal plane.

Thanks,
jeanna

@ MadDog:

Welcome!!!  It was great to see you the other day.  I have heard of this book but have not read it.  Our local library does not have it. (I looked)  Jeanna has discovered that if you hit the "print" button at the bottom of the page, you can get the entire topic in an easy to read form. (You don't have to print it out, you can copy and paste it to a word document for later reading)  there are some great photos and circuit diagrams and other things that will not show up with the print option, but you can make a note of them, and look for them in the topic pages later.  It's great to see you here!


@ All:

MadDog is a good friend of mine that I invited to this topic.  He and I have done many crazy experiments back over the years while working in the precision ceramic machining industry.  Most of those experiments we will not talk about, ha ha.  He has a great mind and an open one.  He will be an asset to our efforts here.  He has already contacted the person at Murry State University who is in charge of the Stubblefield stuff.  There will be a field trip to see what we can grab, I mean learn from the museum items.

Bill

Quote from: jeanna on January 22, 2008, 07:15:27 PM
Could you explain this again to me? Or can you make a drawing? (with mouse, or on paper then scan it onto your comp?)
this part especially, In the tesla coil type fashion in the horizontal plane.
Thanks,
jeanna

The coil on the top is what I was gonna do, alternating layers with iron and copper wire.
http://www.thunting.com/geotech/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=506&stc=1&d=1139522747

Here Stubblefields cell.  You can see he wound his wire horizontally outwards in layers.  I was thinking this might create a field which can be used or added.  It could also be that the layers were done in series and acted like a voltaic pile which is more mundane.  I think he used cotton to separate the layers.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=Q19NAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA4&dq=nathan+stubblefield#PPA4,M1

This was just a idea, I don't know how Stubblefields cell actually worked.

Quote from: Freezer on January 22, 2008, 07:55:22 PM

Thanks, Freezer. It is a funny thing. I looked at that patent every day a bunch of years ago. I just didn't know what to do with it. It makes a lot more sense to me now. I will study it anew!
Thanks a lot,
jeanna

@maddog,
Welcome. No I will look for the book.
jeanna