Localjoe, "This is the "earth battery" were working on" "This is not the current project were going towards in this thread Let me be clear.."

Let me be clear! Everything  jeanna has done and said in this thread has been something to do with earth battery experiments. She has brought a lot to this thread with her testing and involvement.

There are some things you need to under stand about the earth and the energy it produces. First of all the earths energy is nothing more then vibrations weather they be under the earths surface or above as long as they are in the earths atmosphere,

With that said and due to the testing she just posted about, I have to say her post did have a bearing on this thread and I for one feel this was a good thread to post her findings in.

This thread is using both the energy above and below ground, other wise there wouldn't be any probes sticking out of the ground and the probes would be completely underground. You sir need to open your mind a bit and understand that what happens above or below ground has everything to do with each other. You have to have one vibration coming from under and one coming from above and if you don?t focus on both or at least keep a open mind about how both interact with each other, you will get nowhere.

jeanna, keep up the good work because I for one feel your findings are valid and trustworthy and all pertain to this thread as well as some others.

All right Joe,

Just please have patience with this biologist. You never know...

I am probably going to be some confused about the difference for a while, but worry not, I will keep at it.

My confusion is in the part of the electromagnet that needs to have electricity to keep it going - and this is the very biggest thing we have been dealing with all along. - getting enough voltage and amperage to keep the thing going.

the relay is cool and  I am looking forward to learning about that. But that is a very externally applied item and not a self sustaining thing at all.

Do you see my confusion here?

I am not trying to destroy your thread or cause extra confusion for others. I am apparently confused myself. I very much enjoy this topic and the people who work together on it.

jeanna

PS thank you nightlife for your kind words.

Everyone,
As I was just re-reading this thread looking for series examples, I came across someone saying that the terminal wires should be hanging down.

Is everyone in agreement?

Also, I did a bunch of different types of winds in today's tests.

I am wondering if there is a consensus about how to do the winding? And did my findings go along with anyone else's experiments about which way to wind this thing?

thank you

jeanna

@ Jeanna:

Maybe I can help you.  I don't think you are as confused as you think.  As Joe said, the self-inducting coil with the primary and secondary is the earth battery.  The electromagnetic coil (ie door bell buzzer) I think you are talking about is for the make/break device which I don't think we have yet determined the best way to go as of yet.  Freezer has a design, Hans as well, I have a few ideas and so does Joe.  They all may be a little different but will accomplish the same thing.  So, the earth battery (NS style) has none of the cu and fe wires tied together.  Only 2 of them are involved in either side of the make/break device whatever that ends up being.

Now, you mentioned about where the power is coming from to operate the coil? (I am assuming you mean the coil such as Hans proposed for the make/break device, or Freezer's 555 ic design)  I hope that the power can come from the earth battery "system" itself.  By system, I am imagining an induction coil with primary only which will put out enough dc to operate the most efficient make/break device we can come up with.  Then, another induction coil with the secondary added can use the make/break device to generate ac at various freqs.  In the meantime, I am guessing that some are using other power sources to experiment with their own make/break devices which, when perfected, can then be possibly powered by the earth itself as well.

I hope I am explaining this ok here.  One point I left out.  As Joe said, you do not hook up a battery or other power device to the induction coil.  It will power itself. (Self-inducting)  The external battery would only be used for experimenting with, say Joe's design of a very small hobby motor spinning a disc with make/break conducting paths picked up by stranded wire brushes of some sort.  I believe Freezer said his design, at this time, requires about 4 vdc.  So he powers that with a battery or other power supply for experiments with the secondary and ac readings.  The battery (dry cell, 9 volt, etc) or other external power supply will (I hope) not be needed down the road.

If anyone here does not agree with my understanding, feel free to jump in here.  Jeanna, if I have confused you more, let me know and I will try to correct that.  Feel free to im me if you want with any additional questions.

Bill

@ Jeanna:

As far as the terminal wires go, my understanding is this:  In my first wound coil (1 layer) I started at the top and wound down leaving me with two terminals (1 ea cu and fe) at each end.  I decide this was not going to be very handy to place in the ground this way.  so, the next coil I started at the top, wound down and back up (2 layers) so on that one I have 4 terminals at the top (2 ea cu and fe)  Joe can correct me on this but I don't think it matters as long as they do not touch each other when planted in the ground.  I just found it easier to have them end up all back at the same place.  So as long as I have an even number of layers, I can have all my terminals at the top end.

Bill