Okay, here are the test results of today. Tests were done on Toroid no. 2 with the 2nd primary I made yesterday.

First, I must explain that Toroid no. 2 (picture below) has 4 x 1,000 turns layers on each side and each layer has wire break out lead. So we have many many possible wire configurations for the Toroid Secondaries. The test below are done with 120 volts 60 hz electrical power regulated by a variac down to 2 volts. At this voltage the Primaries (nested in the middle of the Toroid) consumes 2 amps with no load attached to the Secondaries, results shown in Test # 1.

What is very interesting is the results of Tests # 2 to # 4.  With a 1 K ohm load on the Secondaries and by ONLY changing around our Secondaries wire leads in a different configurations, we have been able to lowers the input voltage and current to the Primary and increase the voltage and power output of the Secondaries without touching the input voltage 

At this time, Thane and I are both stunned as to why we are able to do this. Usually a transformer Primary (in transformers we have today) have the input power to the Primary going up as you add load to the Secondary. Not the other way around .

We will continue to do tests and report our findings.

Stay Tuned or Stunned for more.

Luc


BI-TOROID TEST DATA   ?  March 9th, 2008
Luc and Thane


Test # 1  -  NO LOAD      

Primary I/P   
2 volts                                                     
2 amps
PF = 1
Input Power = 4 watts
Output Power = 0.00 watts @ 0.0 v


Test # 2  -  1 K ohm LOAD      

Primary I/P   
2 volts                                                     
2 amps
PF = 1
Input Power = 4 watts
Output Power = 0.003 watts @ 1.63 v


Test # 3  -  1 K ohm LOAD

Primary I/P   
2 volts                                                         
1.8 amps
PF = 1
Input Power = 3.6 watts (10% decrease)
Output Power = 0.023 watts @ 4.8 v (194.5 % increase)


Test # 4  -  1 K ohm LOAD

Primary I/P   
1.75 volts
1.88 amps
PF = 1
Input Power = 3.29 watts (17.8 % decrease)
Output Power = 1.05 watts @ 32.4 v (1887.7 % increase)

NOW I won't sleep 

Quote from: gotoluc on March 09, 2008, 09:56:09 PM

BI-TOROID TEST DATA   ?  March 9th, 2008
Luc and Thane

That does sound very interesting.
What is the difference in the test setup/conditions between tests 2, 3 and 4?
What's the reason for dropping the input voltage in test #4 to 1.75V; and what happens if you keep it at 2V?

Quote from: polarbreeze on March 09, 2008, 10:21:52 PM

Quote from: gotoluc on March 09, 2008, 09:56:09 PM

BI-TOROID TEST DATA   ?  March 9th, 2008
Luc and Thane

That does sound very interesting.
What is the difference in the test setup/conditions between tests 2, 3 and 4?
What's the reason for dropping the input voltage in test #4 to 1.75V; and what happens if you keep it at 2V?

WE ARE ADDING IN TURNS - SIMPLY CONNECTING WIRES ON THE SECONDARY.
WE ARE NOT DROPPING THE VOLTAGE IT IS DROPPING ON IT'S OWN AS IS THE CURRENT. WHILE AT THE SAME TIME THE OUTPUT GOES UP.

WE ARE NOT TOUCHING THE INPUT WHAT SO EVER.

WE WILL GET VIDEO TOMORROW AND WE NEED TO DOULBE CHECK THE POWER FACTOR WITH A SILLYSCOPE..

Thane

Personally IMO this device is a curiosity only, but the input voltage dropping is kooky.

The only way the input voltage should be able to go down is if you reduce it, or if you pull so much current it can't keep up.

To have current and voltage go down it's like turning off (or more correctly turning down0 a running tap and watching water pressure in the pipes decrease, it should only be possible if you are effecting the generation capability of whatever you have supplying energy to the primary.

By far the most likely thing is that the wave shape/power factor is screwed up and causing a measurement error.

Very strange.